thunderhawk Posted June 24, 2006 Author Share Posted June 24, 2006 something like this? http://griffongames.safeshopper.com/43/1459.htm?393 or http://griffongames.safeshopper.com/43/1462.htm?393 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1038413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 Maybe combine them with either the GG Skull, or the GW Skull. Placing the skull (black) in the middle of the cog would make it look pretty damn fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1038414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderhawk Posted June 24, 2006 Author Share Posted June 24, 2006 name: ........? ------------------------------------- homeworld: none. the chapter is still in search of a new homeworld last located in the segmentum tempestus on the dead world Certan Defh. the purpose of their activities on the planet is unknown. inquisitor Toth claims they are helping the adeptus mechanicus recovering a STC (standard template construct). http://www.geocities.com/robertpetrone/bigtatooine.jpg world of Certan Defh ----------------------------------- gene seed: Iron hands the genes have been modified by the Adeptus mechanicus after a recently developed theory. time will show if the modification actualy were a sucsess (so far, the improved implants in the hosts work as planned) ----------------------------------- history: loading...................... file not found ----------------------------------- just experimental fluff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1038512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 homeworld: none.the chapter is still in search of a new homeworld What happened to their first one? How was it taken from them? Why was it taken from them? Is it important to their character? the genes have been modified by the Adeptus mechanicus after a recently developed theory. time will show if the modification actualy were a sucsess (so far, the improved implants in the hosts work as planned) Why did the AM decide to play with Gene-seed? This is pushing the boundries off normal background there, playing with the seeds has only really been done during the Cursed (21) Founding, which I would suggest avoiding. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1038603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderhawk Posted June 24, 2006 Author Share Posted June 24, 2006 i were just playing with my mind :D since im not a psyker, i cant see why i could not. anyway i will NOT use that for fluff. you could say i were just talking to air (or anything that makes you more comfortable with my wicked intelect posting my insane theories B) ) what im trying to say is that i were just playing with your "AM Lapdogs" theory. hope you did not mind. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1038676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted June 24, 2006 Share Posted June 24, 2006 If you go the AM lap-dog theory, make sure you write it well. It can come across really poorly and if you don't get the tone right your chapter loses a lot of it's edge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1038678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderhawk Posted June 24, 2006 Author Share Posted June 24, 2006 What about the name Revealers? is it already taken? orkdungs link to that latin page gave me some inspiration :D "acclaro" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1038680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 There is a GW chapter called the Revilers, but not one called the Revealers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1038716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 'Certan Defh'? :P When you mention Inquisitor Toth, are you talking about the character from Dawn of War? It might be an idea not to use such a prominent character in your background. You don't want the focus to be taken away from your chapter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1038895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderhawk Posted June 25, 2006 Author Share Posted June 25, 2006 as i mentioned earlyer, i were just experimenting Commissar Molotov ^_^ remember gw number one rule: to have fun :P oki. if no one does feel ofended, i will go for the name Revealers. the lap dog thing could work, the only thing that bothers me is that this is not very original. But ,here it comes, what about a chapter so barbaric that they were under investigatoin by the Inq. (yes, this is not original but the way they were saved might be) in what seemed their last days as not excuminated, they recieved a call for aid from the AM. The desperate AM knew who they were asking for help, but as they were out of options they had to do this. the Inq. could not guarante forgivenes, but the chapter understood that this were the only chanse they had to prove their Zeal for the imperial cause. after the trimuph over..........(i have not figured this out yet :D )..........the AM asked the inq. to "rebuild"the chapter. The inq agreed and the chapter (earlyer known as doom angels) became the Revealers. the Revealers chapter master were executed as he denied the chapter to be rebuilt. also AM trained many techmarines for the chapter. They evolved from barbarians to scientists and AM fans :P what do you guys think? just toss it right at me! btw: the chapter can not be of Iron hand gene seed as they are founded as fierce bastards. any sugestions Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1039006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 I just found the blatant play on 'Certain Death' to be amusing, that's all. And whilst the point is to have fun, it depends on your viewpoint. I find fitting in with the dark, gothic setting of 40k to be satisfying. As Ferrata would say, it's my taste. :lol: Revealers is an interesting name. I'm not sure it's entirely fitting, but if you're happy with it, go for it. I can see a chapter under investigation by the Inquisition for their barbaric practices - there's certainly nothing untenable there. You just don't give any reason why the Adeptus Mechanicus called for help from a soon-to-be-exterminated Space Marine chapter. You say the Adeptus Mechanicus were 'desperate' but don't say why. Consider that the AM have uncounted billions of tech-guard and even the Titan Legions at their control. The Machine-Cult of Mars is more of an allied Empire with the Imperium than an integral part of the Imperium. Why do they care about one chapter of marines? Especially barbaric, rash, illogical marines? The idea of a rash, barbaric chapter being reborn into a more cool-headed, logical chapter is an extremely interesting idea, though. Perhaps try this as your name: rev Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1039238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderhawk Posted June 25, 2006 Author Share Posted June 25, 2006 good idea ;) the name Revealers refers to the chapter revealing the truth. their totem worshiping were heretical! but now i have to ask you: why do they have golden bolters if they are an experiment of betrayal? note: im not complaining but i have to get the techmasters and golden bolters into the fluff in a "propa" :P way. You say the Adeptus Mechanicus were 'desperate' but don't say why. this was something i actually wanted some help with :wub: just think abaout it...... a AM expediton/transport is attacked by fx dark eldar, comes in the way of a hive fleet or angry jedi master Yoda :lol: Revenants? hmm....... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1039256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Sergeant Alasseo Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 Perhaps a particular outpost is under attack from (insert enemy here), and is so isolated that there are no Skitarii/Praetorian/other AM troop forces within range to come to their aid. Your chapter is the only force close enough, and/or not so completely engaged in other conflicts to arrive quick enough to save them. Make it clear that they weren't the AM's first choice but rather their last hope of saving the outpost Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1039266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 So they ask the Space Marine chapter rather than the Inquisitorially-assembled warfleet about to exterminate the chapter? :) Thunderhawk: Remember the proverb: All that glitters is not gold. Who knows what alloys and metals can be found on other worlds? Gold-coloured doesn't have to mean gold. It could simply be the result of the metals and ores the nearest forgeworld uses. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1039283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderhawk Posted June 25, 2006 Author Share Posted June 25, 2006 Perhaps a particular outpost is under attack from (insert enemy here), and is so isolated that there are no Skitarii/Praetorian/other AM troop forces within range to come to their aid. Your chapter is the only force close enough, and/or not so completely engaged in other conflicts to arrive quick enough to save them. that was the idea Brother Sergeant Alasseo to Commissar Molotov: hey i said "in what seemed their last days as not excuminated". the fleet of the inq had probably not arived yet. the bolter issue. yup yup yup....... you may be right there :) i just sarted wondering.. what gene seed thou should be of (the chapter) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1039291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 I see. Well, if you want to discard my idea that's up to you. Your chapter in the end. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1039294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderhawk Posted June 25, 2006 Author Share Posted June 25, 2006 I thought it was good idea Molotov. just a few things that im not sure abaout Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1039298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 what gene seed thou should be of (the chapter) Always Ultramarines, always. Unless you really need the other gene-seed for an important part of the chapter, go for the blue. It's better, it's cleaner and damn it's cooler! I'm not sure about the "being under the eye of the Inq." because it just seems a little easy. How about them being feral to the point of other Imperial bodies do not like working along side them, either because their to barbaric on the battlefield or have some horrible ritual which disgusts others. The AM need help, and try to contact other organisations in the area, but none are able to help (due to distant or business). Finally, the AM ask for the aid of the chapter, unwillingly due to their reputation. The chapter fights the foes of the AM until near death, and the AM see a different side to the chapter. Maybe they're not all horrible ritual/feral slaughter, maybe they have honour, courage, some good inside them. Feeling like they owe the chapter something, they help to rebuild them, maybe try and change them slightly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1039305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderhawk Posted June 25, 2006 Author Share Posted June 25, 2006 Ferrata.............. again u amaze me with your simple solutions. perhaps i have been blinded by my distrust to the Inq? however, i do not wish to be of Guilliman kind. i could live with being of Leon el johnson, but im not a smurf (not trying to offend!) fan. i will use that as a base for my fluff. icon/badges thats what i seem to be missing now. what comes to mind when i say Revealers or revenants? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1039322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 however, i do not wish to be of Guilliman kind. i could live with being of Leon el johnson, but im not a smurf (not trying to offend!) fan.Lion El is rare, but it is used. You don't need to be a Ultramarine fan to use their gene-seed, you could always say they got their gene-seed and was trained by an Ultramarine successor that went stray (i.e. Mortificators) My chapter are Ultra-seeded, and they turned to chaos and where trained by a Barbaric chapter closer to the Space Wolves than the Ultra's, but they where Ultra-seeded too. again u amaze me with your simple solutions. perhaps i have been blinded by my distrust to the Inq? Reading lots of fluff gives you different idea's, then you put different aspects together. I'm sure I've read somewhere that one chapter was looked down on by other chapters (I think it was the Flesh Tearers). Add in Brother Sergeant Alasseo idea and the old idea of Hard on the Outside and Soft on the Inside, and you have my idea. Revealers...I don't think thats PG :) Revenants could have something as simple as a Skull, or a something else linked with reincarnation... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1039332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 One option if you're interested in feral/barbaric chapters is the gene-seed of Jaghatai Khan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1039333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderhawk Posted June 25, 2006 Author Share Posted June 25, 2006 Jaghatai what? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1039336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 Jaghatai Khan was the primarch of the White Scars. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1039337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderhawk Posted June 25, 2006 Author Share Posted June 25, 2006 ..............oh yeah, that dude :) what abaout raven guard? they are fierce! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1039349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted June 25, 2006 Share Posted June 25, 2006 The Raven Guard aren't as feral or as tribal as the White Scars. The White Scars can draw an analogy to the Mongols of Genghis Khan. The Raven Guard are more calculating fast-attack specialists. Both head in a similar direction, but from different starting-points. The Raven Guard are Assault Squad-heavy, whilst the White Scars concentrate on being Bike-heavy. Of course, successors don't have to be like their founding legion. In your case, your chapter will likely be barbaric due to their chapter cult, which would likely originate from their homeworld. Like Ferrata said, you could use Ultramarines gene-seed, just to emphasise just how far from grace the chapter had fallen. It's up to you in the end. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90134-need-name/page/2/#findComment-1039352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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