the-betrayer Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 Just thought i'd throw this up on here for general feed back and C&C, so fire away. Chapter Name: Angels of Lament Gene seed: Dark Angels Founding #: 3rd Planet or Fleet Based: Fleet based Flagship Name: The Unending vengeance Battle Cry: LAMENT! FOR TODAY YOU DIE! Origins The Angels of Lament started there life as the Angels of Rowdan, named after the planet which they discovered and chose as there home world. The planet is a little larger than Terra and has a mix of coniferous forest, large grassland plains and several medium sized seas. These grasslands are covered by massive herds of creatures that are reminiscent of the ancient herds of buffalo form terra Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90395-angels-of-lament/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderhawk Posted June 26, 2006 Share Posted June 26, 2006 seems u have used a lot of time to make the fluff. thats good :tu: and i like the idea of the chapter. nice work Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90395-angels-of-lament/#findComment-1040011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnifex Carl Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 I do like the ideas of the Angels of Lament, and the name reminded me of a great 40K quote, which I can't find to directly reference. However, it went something like: What is the greatest joy in life? To die in service to the Emperor. What is the gravest lament in life? To die with our task unfinished. You might play off that quote to focus on the idea, perhaps, that the Angels of Lament not only act to make others lament their actions, but find themselves lamenting "tasks incompleted", such as the 4th company's failure to destroy the Thousands Sons cohort, and the fall of the Emperor, and the fall of Johnson. They could almost be like Warhammer Fantasy Dwarfs, driven to avenge grudges and complete tasks left to them by previous 'generations' of marines. I can see the "Trust in your Battle Brothers" and "No Mercy, No Respite", but I'm not sure why they have taken the "We Stand Alone" disadvantage. I understand their shame, but I'm not particularly sure why that private shame would prevent them from working with allies. The Dark Angels have a particularly grave and dangerous secret to keep, but the Angels of Lament seem to have no reason to keep this a secret other than their own private anguish (it's not like the 4th company is still around, or anything). Perhaps the 4th Company wasn't merely overcome by the warp sorceries of the Thousand Sons, but betrayed by their allies in the fight? Even if they weren't treacherously betrayed, perhaps their allies were more easily corrupted by Chaos, and this has led them to be suspicious of depending on any outside agencies in battle? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90395-angels-of-lament/#findComment-1041134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Woop Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Not a very original theme, but as long as it's well written and well thought out that doesn't matter. As I understood it, Uriel felt the chapter have failed in their duty. Was there something special about Uriel's character, or his past, that made him come to this conclusion? Did the rest of the brothers obey him out of a sense of duty or devotion? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90395-angels-of-lament/#findComment-1041238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangelus Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 What is the greatest joy in life? To die in service to the Emperor.What is the gravest lament in life? To die with our task unfinished. What is the terror of Death? To die, our task incomplete. What is the joy of Life? To die, knowing our task is done. I like the Battlecry! Nice adaptation of the DA one ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90395-angels-of-lament/#findComment-1041249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-betrayer Posted June 28, 2006 Author Share Posted June 28, 2006 Thanks for the replies every one. Firstly Carnifex Carl, the lamenting aspect of the chapter was some thing I am defiantly thinking about working into the Chapter more. I like the ideas you Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90395-angels-of-lament/#findComment-1041567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I think Carl's ideas are actually incredibly engaging - it's a neat twist on the idea that most space marine chapters rigidly venerate their predecessors. Your chapter sees what didn't get accomplished rather than what did. That's actually an awesome idea. Each generation struggling harder and harder to prove themselves. Of course, the tragic irony is that no matter how hard they try, their successors will say they didn't try hard enough. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90395-angels-of-lament/#findComment-1042539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrph45 Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Seems to me to be very well thought out idea for an army. Just curious though is why does the chaptermaster travel with the 3rd co. and not the 1st co.? It is nice to see a DIY chapter with the DA geneseed that didn't include a "they still hunt the fallen" piece. Good luck with this brother, for the Lion and the Emperor! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90395-angels-of-lament/#findComment-1042909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-betrayer Posted June 30, 2006 Author Share Posted June 30, 2006 Commissar Molotov, thank you for you reply. I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90395-angels-of-lament/#findComment-1043207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrph45 Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 <quote>are often found through out the battle companies acting as veteran sergeants, but are also used as units in there own right,. <quote> This is where I got confused, i just assumed when they were whole units they were the entire 1st co. My mistake. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90395-angels-of-lament/#findComment-1045438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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