Sgt Ezradol Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Hey guys, haven Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90717-looking-at-a-diy-chapter/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubal Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 It's not too bad, it's more fluff than most have for their chapters ;) The recruitment and training is interesting; a little like the Black Templars, yet not. More of an equal partnership (at least after the newbie is worn in :D). Does it apply to sergeants and characters too? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90717-looking-at-a-diy-chapter/#findComment-1043586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironloki Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Not a bad start. Now you need to fill in things like Organisation, combat doctrine, beliefs, Geneseed, founding (How old are they) and Homeworld (Whats the planet and people like?) Just begin to flesh it out a bit more and we'll see if the Liber gang can help you out :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90717-looking-at-a-diy-chapter/#findComment-1043607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Ezradol Posted July 1, 2006 Author Share Posted July 1, 2006 Tubal: Im rather stuck on the sergeants acctually, maybe another guy from the unit he is teaching to do his job to replace him, when he dies maybe? Ironloki: I was looking at them being about a middle aged Chapter. Not sure on the gene seed at the moment, But im loking at Imperial fists, im pretty sure their gene seed is the one without the acid, but i cant think of the other part thats missing at the moment. The Planet they are based on is kind of a very nobleish type planet, but very, oh darn it i cant think of the word, you know like, vampire type movies with the weird shirts like the Empire guys from warhammer fantasy have, a planet thats just catching up with the rest of the universe, large urban mining planet. Thats all i can think of now :D its time for bed ;) Sean Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90717-looking-at-a-diy-chapter/#findComment-1043616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironloki Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Imperial Fists - Missing Betcher's Gland, Missing Sus-an Membrane :D As for that time period. Hmm I know what you mean but cannot think for the moment. I've got a couple of movies like that . I will see if they use any words to express the time period (Same with some books) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90717-looking-at-a-diy-chapter/#findComment-1043620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severus6 Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Fuedalistic is possibly the word I think you are you looking for. As for the SGTs maybe they are chosen by their peers or by the squad itself. Everyone votes as to who they would want to lead them. Thus it becomes a internal honor as much as an external promotion and alleviates the issue of rank by age and survivability. An old Marine who has fought loyally for years and has acted in a stead fast manner may not be a natural leader. Killer he may be and all the rest of the squad want him with them in a fight but not as a leader, where as a younger, but still experienced Marine, steps forward and accepts the responsibility of leadership progresses through the ranks based on natural abilities or learned (potentially faster than others) / practiced capabilities is chosen to lead. It is not unheard of and is still practiced in some forces. Just a thought, hope it helps. Severus6 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90717-looking-at-a-diy-chapter/#findComment-1043798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Ezradol Posted July 2, 2006 Author Share Posted July 2, 2006 Severus6 that sounds great thanks for that :lol: So ive been working on the scheme a little and i cant decide between these two. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Drunken/marinecolourscheme.jpg By the way thats Catachan Green, not DA Green :wink: Combat Doctrine: Similar to standard, but they are a fast moving tactical force, meaning they leave their heavy weapons with Devastators. Question: Would it be possible to have a Marine Force lead by a Chaplian, or a council of some sort? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90717-looking-at-a-diy-chapter/#findComment-1044061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
utilityzero Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 i would either go with the green but paint the bolter the same green, or i would go with the black and blue, but i wouldn't mix that green with that blue. yes, you could have even have a council of chaplains leading your chapter, you just need a good back story to explain why that's the case. or you might have a council of chaplains who elect one of the captains to be chapter master. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90717-looking-at-a-diy-chapter/#findComment-1044098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Ezradol Posted July 2, 2006 Author Share Posted July 2, 2006 Blue? :angry: The Bolter is Chaos Black, but thats what it shows up as when you paint it on their online painting thingy :D But i can see what you mean :) Great i think ill go with a council of Chaplains, they are the one marine thing ive never stopped liking :D, oh and techmarines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90717-looking-at-a-diy-chapter/#findComment-1044152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severus6 Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 I think the green would look good but I will echo the opinion that the weapon should also be green. Severus6 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90717-looking-at-a-diy-chapter/#findComment-1044696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
utilityzero Posted July 2, 2006 Share Posted July 2, 2006 even if that is supposed to be black, it would look a little off, the only way i will accept a color on the bolter that isn't on the marine itself is if its the 'codex' red from the old early third edition pictures and articles when it seemed to me that just about everyone had red bolters. even the smurfs had red bolters. red bolters for everyone! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90717-looking-at-a-diy-chapter/#findComment-1044711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heru Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 even if that is supposed to be black, it would look a little off, the only way i will accept a color on the bolter that isn't on the marine itself is if its the 'codex' red from the old early third edition pictures and articles when it seemed to me that just about everyone had red bolters. even the smurfs had red bolters. red bolters for everyone! Black is the new Red at least where bolters are concerned. See How to Paint Space Marines, almost everyone has black bolters. Black is a universal non-clash choice, while red is just asking for trouble with allot of colour schemes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90717-looking-at-a-diy-chapter/#findComment-1044732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubal Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Black is a universal non-clash choice, while red is just asking for trouble with allot of colour schemes.It helps that most real-life weapons are black (or camouflaged) ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90717-looking-at-a-diy-chapter/#findComment-1044735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severus6 Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Additionally I have seen some of the bolters as a tan or mid level green with a smattering of black here and there. Severus6 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90717-looking-at-a-diy-chapter/#findComment-1044740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
utilityzero Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 silence, it shall be red. do not disobey the venerable codex... you'll hurt its feelings. additionally, and you know, on topic, your fluff is a little sparse i think, do you have anything else you can add, anything that we could actually, you know, critique, or is there anything you know you would like help with? what sort of gene-seed are you thinking, what is their homeworld called, are they completely codex in their organization? you said middle-aged chapter, so like, 18th founding sound good? try and answer those questions and remember to stick your primary theme, hopefully as you plug in the first basic pieces of information, the rest will just sort of fall into place, or at least we should be able to help you out from there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90717-looking-at-a-diy-chapter/#findComment-1044776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubal Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Btw, you've read the stickies in this forum, right? ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90717-looking-at-a-diy-chapter/#findComment-1044896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
st.germaine Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 I have to buck the trend here on the color for weapon casings. I never use a color that is a main color on the armor. They blend in way too much and frankly, in my opinion, it just looks bad. My suggestion is to find a color that complements the overall color scheme but doesn't overwhelm it. Of the two schemes you have I prefer the green and bone. I would use a black bolter casing with that scheme and a dark (or maybe medium) gray for the bolter casing on the other scheme(You might be able to get away with an extremely dark green). On the comments about red casings, I did use red casings on my first chapter but it was because the color scheme was 60/40 reddish brown and golden yellow. My last chapter chapter was 80/20 deep reddish purple & gold and used black casings. The chapter I'm working on now is 50/50 dark green & orange and I'm using white casings. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90717-looking-at-a-diy-chapter/#findComment-1044957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severus6 Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Getting us back on topic, (though granted color scheme is an integral part) I think you could go one further with the command of the Company / Chapter. Squad members elect their SGT. Squads elect their CPT. Captains elect the Chapter Master. Vets, Tech Marines, Apothocaries, Chaplains and Librarians would obviously be selected differently or with additional parameters. Those being based on ability, capability, and qualification. Just a thought, hope it helps. Severus6 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90717-looking-at-a-diy-chapter/#findComment-1044973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rose Princes Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Okay.... maybe i haven't read enough fluff, but isn't eating of dead space marines signs of chaos/herasey/evil or something?? Wouldn't the inquisition be up you but in a heartbeat?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90717-looking-at-a-diy-chapter/#findComment-1045064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severus6 Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 Not necessarily,...there are several examples within the accepted and authorized GW background. Examples include the Mortifactors and several of the BA offshoot Chapters. One must consider and remember the concept here is not about morbidity but respect and honor. No warp twisted reason behind it. Severus6 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/90717-looking-at-a-diy-chapter/#findComment-1045213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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