BadOmen Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Please read my idea for a DIY chapter based on the Imperial Fist. Ive been out of the hobby for a while so I dont know anything about the new traits system. Hoping to expand this into a full IA article once I have the background figured out so it appears to coincide with 40K knowledge. ----- Chapter Name - Flaming Fists, Chapter #899 Chapter Master - Master Gjaller Homeworld - Tem Alpha Founding - 14th Geneseed - Imperial Fist Chapter Symbol - Orange and Yellow fist on a black background Heraldry - Dark Red and Black armour with Blue chest eagle, flame-style left gauntlet on normal troops; higher ranks have both flame-style gauntlets. Mainly red with lower leg, inner torso, elbow and shoulder pads in black Standard - Varies from House(Company) although all must display Chapter symbol, colours, and House (company) marking. Doctrine - To take to battle as many flame weapons as possible, and to use them effectively in any situation. Brief Chapter History - Created during the 14th Founding. Flagship Battlebarge "Ortaega" infected by Nurgle in warp during maiden voyage to Tem Alpha, half of Chapter turn to Chaos during the Ortaega Traitor War. Loyalist Flaming Fist stop Traitor Flaming Fist participation during the Third War for Armageddon. Chapter now monitored closely for signs of Nurgle influence after the Ortaega incident, but have since then proven themselves loyal to the Imperium and their parent & brother chapters. War Cry - "Fire. The tool of the Puritan" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91221-diy-flaming-fist-1st-draft/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Well, welcome to the B+C, Omen. Hopefully we can answer any questions you might have, but it's worth remembering that here in the Liber we have a heavy focus on the background of 40k. Rules questions about the traits might be better served in Amicus Aedes. Now, I'm curious as to the reasoning behind your chapter - why do you want them to have broken in half? It's an idea we see a lot here, so for a lot of us it's clich Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91221-diy-flaming-fist-1st-draft/#findComment-1048800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadOmen Posted July 8, 2006 Author Share Posted July 8, 2006 It was just an idea I was playing with. Most chapters seem to have some form of traumatic period during or after creation that makes them who they are today. If that idea is unfluffy, uncool or over-used then i ask the people of this forum to help me use something original that will make the Flaming Fists a chapter that will be fun to read as well as play. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91221-diy-flaming-fist-1st-draft/#findComment-1048801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 Ah, okay. Well, I'd dispute the 'traumatic' thing. A lot of chapters manage just fine without trauma. The thing is, I guess, that drama reads well. We don't always want to see perfectly perfect protagonists - we like to see them fail, to struggle, because it makes victory all the more worth-while. I do think, though, that it's stretching things to say that every single chapter in the Imperium has had some huge calamity befall them. I think you can make a characterful, original chapter without the need for a traumatic period. Indeed, if you think that all chapters have a traumatic period, you'd be creating something original and unique by not having such a period. What might help you is to discuss the themes or the ideas you want in the Flaming Fists. What you'd like to include - what interests you and what doesn't about 40k. Why Space Marines? Does the dark, brooding zealotry of the Astartes hook you? Do you just think that power armour is cool and you want Space Marines that kick ass? The more you can give us, the more we can help you. We're not necessarily here to write your stuff for you, but rather to help shape your ideas and help you to express them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91221-diy-flaming-fist-1st-draft/#findComment-1048804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted July 8, 2006 Share Posted July 8, 2006 You chapter number and founding don't seem to add up to me, but that is a minor quibble (at this stage anyway). It is better to get a feeling of the chapter before you start deciding what the have for tea. Now, I would agree with Molotov that having half the chapter go Chaos is over-done, it can work but often you come out looking like the Dark Angels without the Robes. Looking at what you've done so far, I would say the basic theme of your chapter is Fire, which as in the case of the Sisters of Battle, leads to purging the universe. Now, if you go along these lines, a chapter dedicated to purging the universe through flame more so than other chapters (think BT's with Flamers) you will need to think of a reason why, chapters are not just something from the start, they need to grow. Maybe, instead of having half of them turn against them, they had an ally turn against them during battle and just managed to scrap through (or fail), and this has caused the chapter to be extremely untrusting. Maybe they failed a number of times in their early years and got a bad reputation, and still this day they are trying to remove that reputation. My Chapter doesn't really have anything traumatic happen to them (besides the odd loss in battle) until they totally fall to chaos at the end of their history, everything else in their character has grown from something or other. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91221-diy-flaming-fist-1st-draft/#findComment-1048889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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