Brother Atheos Posted July 9, 2006 Share Posted July 9, 2006 Ok heres the deal, after weighing up the SM and CSM 'dexs i realised that the csm dex was more my cup of tea, and in particular, the Alpha Legion. I decided to stick with the "standard" scheme of Storm/regal and highlight with goblin but it never looks right, even after a a few blue washes. Anyone else painted some AL in the standard way and got some nice results? If not i'll have to do black highlighted with green followed by a blue wash. Thanks in advance for all your help, Brother Atheos Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91271-painting-alpha-legion/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArbitesAugmented Posted July 9, 2006 Share Posted July 9, 2006 try regal and then a watered down goblin green highlight, but not too watered, otherwise it will go everywhere.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91271-painting-alpha-legion/#findComment-1049418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obliterator Posted July 9, 2006 Share Posted July 9, 2006 try regal and then a watered down goblin green highlight, but not too watered, otherwise it will go everywhere.... Add some dishwashing soap to the thinned green to break the surface tension of the water, and the green wash will spread more in a nice and even flow instead of just collecting in the recesses. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91271-painting-alpha-legion/#findComment-1049537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
patsy02 Posted July 9, 2006 Share Posted July 9, 2006 Add some dishwashing soap to the thinned green to break the surface tension of the water, and the green wash will spread more in a nice and even flow instead of just collecting in the recesses. I didn't know that. Thanks for the tip! :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91271-painting-alpha-legion/#findComment-1049552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabblerouser Posted July 9, 2006 Share Posted July 9, 2006 Highlighting blue with green doesn't really work right Just paint it normal... regal/storm....ultramarine silver trim green cables etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91271-painting-alpha-legion/#findComment-1049572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Atheos Posted July 9, 2006 Author Share Posted July 9, 2006 Thanks for the feedback guys, i think i'll have to do a few test minis in different styles and get some votes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91271-painting-alpha-legion/#findComment-1049595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabblerouser Posted July 9, 2006 Share Posted July 9, 2006 Ohh here's an idea To make it look interesting, you could try to glaze the silver trim with waterred down tamiya clear green Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91271-painting-alpha-legion/#findComment-1049601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaldoth Posted July 9, 2006 Share Posted July 9, 2006 Well, the trick to getting AL blue right is to not use Regal Blue. I know it says that in the codex, but dont use just Regal. For a basecoat, mix regal blue with goblin green in a 2:1 ratio. You should get a nice blue-green colour. This will help tone down the highlights so they dont jump out as much. Highlight with pure goblin green, and then highlight the very outermost edges with snot green. Then, mix up a glaze of your base colour and wash the armour with it :P Thats all there is to it! -Kaldoth Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91271-painting-alpha-legion/#findComment-1049637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purgatus Posted July 9, 2006 Share Posted July 9, 2006 I went more for the "standard" scheme for my more recent AL army. I just changed it slightly to make it work better for me. This is done from a bacecoat of regal blue but is worked up using Hawk Turquiose to goblin green. I did it thusly: 1) Do a base coat of regal blue making sure you get all the crevasses. 2) Put a layer of enchanted blue over this leaving any joins in the armour or crevasses regal blue. 3) Blend hawk turquoise in to the enchanted blue at the edges of the armour (where you want the green to go) To do theis I did up to six or more mixes of enchanted blue and incresing amounts of hawk turquoise until it is just hawk turquoise at the edge. 4) mix a very small amount of white into the hawk turquoise and line the edges. 5) Mix up about 1/3 hawk turquoise to 2/3 goblin green and also a bit more white to get the green and concentrate it in the corners of the edges or joins. Mix in a bit more white as a final hilight. (this stage is a bit dodgy as you kind of have to judge for yourself when the mix is the right colour). 6) Just tidy the whole thing up by using hawk turquoise and repeating step three backward until it looks fairly well blended. and it looks like: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/Purgatus/Alpha%20Legion/IMG_1208.jpg Hope that helps Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91271-painting-alpha-legion/#findComment-1049764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Atheos Posted July 9, 2006 Author Share Posted July 9, 2006 Well, the trick to getting AL blue right is to not use Regal Blue. I know it says that in the codex, but dont use just Regal. For a basecoat, mix regal blue with goblin green in a 2:1 ratio. You should get a nice blue-green colour. This will help tone down the highlights so they dont jump out as much. Highlight with pure goblin green, and then highlight the very outermost edges with snot green. Then, mix up a glaze of your base colour and wash the armour with it ^_^ Thats all there is to it! -Kaldoth ummm.... goblin highlights followed by extreme snot highlights looks... :ph34r: I appreciate your efforts to help me tho. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v159/Purgatus/Alpha%20Legion/IMG_1208.jpg Hope that helps WOW. this is almost exactly what i am after, i may use a darker blue as a basecolour, the finished mini looks too bright for my liking, but the finished effect is fantastic. May the blessings of the dark gods be upon you! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91271-painting-alpha-legion/#findComment-1049849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaldoth Posted July 9, 2006 Share Posted July 9, 2006 ummm.... goblin highlights followed by extreme snot highlights looks... :lol: I appreciate your efforts to help me tho. Thats what the glaze is for -_- It tones down the highlights so they dont look so stark. If you would actually try the recipe before judging it, you might find that it works quite well. Especially considering I got first place in a painting competition at my local hobby store using that exact technique on my entry... -Kaldoth Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91271-painting-alpha-legion/#findComment-1049985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honda Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I used Storm Blue for my base (actually, base was 50/50 Storm Blue/Chaos Black, then Storm Blue), which I don't believe is made any more. However I think Regal Blue would still work. What I did differently from the codex is use Scaly Green, which is darker so the highlights weren't so severe. However, some of the other techniques listed above look very interesting as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91271-painting-alpha-legion/#findComment-1050494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Atheos Posted July 10, 2006 Author Share Posted July 10, 2006 ummm.... goblin highlights followed by extreme snot highlights looks... :cuss I appreciate your efforts to help me tho. Thats what the glaze is for <_< It tones down the highlights so they dont look so stark. If you would actually try the recipe before judging it, you might find that it works quite well. Especially considering I got first place in a painting competition at my local hobby store using that exact technique on my entry... -Kaldoth Sorry man, i didnt mean to sound rude, it's just that i lined up the pots and the snot seemed to overpower the other 2 colours. @Honda: I didnt think of using scaly as a transitional colour... its quite dark and has quite a bluish look to it. YOu are right, storm blue isn't made anymore but i know a guy who knows how to mix it up :) Once more i thank you guys for sharing your collective knowledge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91271-painting-alpha-legion/#findComment-1050517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmeat Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Drop the standard blue/green scheme... it dosent work! and either go for the black/green scheme shown in the codex .. or .. change to Red Cossairs.. gw suggests using the same rules UK WD 303 a third option could be to go completly oldschool and use the colourscheme shown in the legendary Realm of Chaos, Slaves to Darkness that would be my choice Dogmeat Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91271-painting-alpha-legion/#findComment-1050581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Atheos Posted July 10, 2006 Author Share Posted July 10, 2006 a third option could be to go completly oldschool and use the colourscheme shown in the legendary Realm of Chaos, Slaves to Darkness that would be my choice Dogmeat Any pics/info? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91271-painting-alpha-legion/#findComment-1050713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venerable Jazzman Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 My copy's up in the attic, I'll pull it down tomorrow morning and let you know what it says (otherwise I'd wake the kids and incur the wrath of Mrs Jazz.. ;) ) ++sp Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91271-painting-alpha-legion/#findComment-1050756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jokersminis Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I would suggest Painting the model Green, and highlighting it as normal, then washing it with blue ink. That will create a cool blue/green color while turning the recesses dark blue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91271-painting-alpha-legion/#findComment-1050788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaldoth Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 I would suggest Painting the model Green, and highlighting it as normal, then washing it with blue ink. That will create a cool blue/green color while turning the recesses dark blue. Ive tried that technique before. I didnt like the outcome too much. Made them look a bit weird... -Kaldoth Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91271-painting-alpha-legion/#findComment-1050865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmeat Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Sorry havent got a scanner, the colours are green base with red detail and yellow/gold chapter symbol ( not the hydra! ) lets hope brother Jazzman can help blue and green will in my opinion never realy work its a simple colourtheory ( theres plenty of tutorials on that try http://www.jenova.dk/ under the tips and tutorials and il bet that Cool mini or Not has something similar as well ) blue and green are simply to similar to stand apart from each other, other examples could be yellow & white, red & purple.. blue & purple but then again that just my opinion... how about really dark blue and really light green, mabye that will work Dogmeat Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91271-painting-alpha-legion/#findComment-1051151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuteAssassin Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 I agree, the dark blue and green scheme isn't very appealing (although that is a nice scheme Purgatos, I might nick that for a non marine army). Alpha Legion preheresy scheme was a dark bluish-grey. Maybe that is more up your alley. You can also paint them up like they are disguised as loyalist marines (a favorite tactic). Complete the look with commandeered weapons and vehicles (bloodied, maybe some dead bodies stuffed in the hatches, etc). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91271-painting-alpha-legion/#findComment-1051636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmeat Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 UUUUUHHHH a very cool idea Mute Assassin Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91271-painting-alpha-legion/#findComment-1051731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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