revmatt Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 This has been plaguing me for ages. I know to advance my technique, i need to begin to do more to my paints than adding a drop of water each time i come to use a colour. I've just read CRasterImage's post in tutorials, regarding tamiya 'clear smoke/black' so i went out to my local stoer and bought a pot to experiment with. while there - i picked up a pot of tamiya acrylic paint thinner. will this work for thinning paints, the same way the rest of you use future floor polish (which we cant seem to get in the UK) has anyone ever tried this? the pot says its water soluable... any ideas - or UK alternatives for thinning?? cheers rev Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91670-thinning-paints/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starks333 Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 This has been plaguing me for ages. I know to advance my technique, i need to begin to do more to my paints than adding a drop of water each time i come to use a colour. rev ***thats completely false, many people who post absolutely wonderful models on CMoN simply use water and nothing more Starks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91670-thinning-paints/#findComment-1053264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gunslinger Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Hi revmatt the uk equivalent for future wax (fff) is Klear by sc johnson. I got mine in sainsburys but tesco has it too. Wonderful stuff :( Hope this helps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91670-thinning-paints/#findComment-1053321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
revmatt Posted July 13, 2006 Author Share Posted July 13, 2006 thats VERY helpful! how much do you use - whats your formula? any advice appreciated! rev Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91670-thinning-paints/#findComment-1053348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Trask Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 I use the Klear in my painting, it helps no ned (helps extend the paints time on the pallet before drying out. Although dont stick the brush in your mouth after dipping it in the water/klear mix becasue it tastes horrible :( although (depending on the size of your water jar) i add a cap and a half to two caps of clear to the jar then fill the jar with fresh cold water before giving it a stir to mix it all together. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91670-thinning-paints/#findComment-1053356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
revmatt Posted July 13, 2006 Author Share Posted July 13, 2006 so you add it to your mug of water? i was thinking more along the lines of making a small bottle of solution (in an old valejjo paint bottle) and adding a few drops of that to my pallet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91670-thinning-paints/#findComment-1053363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Sha'son Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Guide to FFF By volume, my FFF solutions are 1 part futures to 3 parts water. Using straight FFF gets sticky. I use empty Vallejo bottles. Then I use that as a precise way of thinning. I.E., 1 drop paint to 5 drops of FFF Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91670-thinning-paints/#findComment-1053421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artimis Vergadin Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Yeah FFF (future floor finish) would be the best way to go. :P As Shas'son said add water as well because it can and will be sticky. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91670-thinning-paints/#findComment-1053446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
revmatt Posted July 13, 2006 Author Share Posted July 13, 2006 thanks guys anyone used tamiya acrylic thinner then? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91670-thinning-paints/#findComment-1053622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Sha'son Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 tamiya's paints seem to have an alcohol content. At least what I can tell by smell. As a result their acrylic thinner appears also to be alcohol based. I use tamiya paints, but they seem incompatible with true acrylic paints like Vallejo, etc, unless I thin them down with FFF to near murky water. If you need Tamiya's smoke color, Vallejo makes a Smoke glaze. Same color to me, with better results. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91670-thinning-paints/#findComment-1053827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixupi Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 ;) From my experiences plain water with a bit of dish soap works JUST AS GOOD as anything else i've tried if not better. Plain water itself being second. I'd like to think I can paint pretty well but maybe I'm still dreaming....wait....I don't know. Plain water is fine, just puddles slightly easier than with dish soap. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91670-thinning-paints/#findComment-1053874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Sha'son Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 dish soap is OK for breaking up surface tension. But would nt you rather use a thinner that is acrylic based? Since the medium we are using is acrylic? I have had better results when the pigment and binders do not separate. But hey that's just me. There are several ways to cross the street. What works for me may not work for Ixupi sama. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91670-thinning-paints/#findComment-1053880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixupi Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 dish soap is OK for breaking up surface tension. But would nt you rather use a thinner that is acrylic based? Since the medium we are using is acrylic? I have had better results when the pigment and binders do not separate. But hey that's just me. There are several ways to cross the street. What works for me may not work for Ixupi sama. Well I use acrylic of all kinds for that matter...infact i've used the same water/soap mix for all of it too. Basic acrylic, reaper, GW, Vallejo, and good ole' 50cent craft paint. Water with dish soap, breaks the tension perfectly but then again that's just my opinion. A great way to demonstrate that it does and is by applying a small amount of paint to the tip of your brush and poke it into the water. If properly done, no paint will spread into your water. That's how I guage my thinning water. But yes, it's agreed different people have different results, don't know why it works that way...but it does. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91670-thinning-paints/#findComment-1053892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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