ixupi Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Now, mind you I live in Japan....people BREATH modelling here. Trains, gundam, you name it! But everywhere I go, the range of foilage, flock and other grass like materials all look so fake. I see beautiful bases by a few members like Obilt and fortitude to name a few. I would have just did the 'PM 'em and ask route' but I figured I might get more responses and well...in turn other people can get the same answer if they didn't know as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexious Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Look for a shop that sells model railroad supplies. There is a company called woodland scenics that makes a wide range of materials. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/#findComment-1054055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixupi Posted July 14, 2006 Author Share Posted July 14, 2006 Look for a shop that sells model railroad supplies. There is a company called woodland scenics that makes a wide range of materials. Actually I did, quite a few of them. Usually shop at a place in Tokyo called Tam Tam Hobby Shop. I found minimal wooland scenics though sadly... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/#findComment-1054059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Sha'son Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 For jungle and heavy fauna type areas, try plastic aquarium plants. Sesame and mustard seeds as well as coffee grounds are good for basic turf. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/#findComment-1054073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artimis Vergadin Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Static grass or flock? For static grass order from GW. Woodland scenics is probably your best bet. VERY wide range of good looking stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/#findComment-1054505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Angelus Sanctus Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Ive got a small collection of tea leaves from tea that arent the standard tea bag variety which would be good for woodlands. If you can get your hands into some nice fresh sand that will also out as well when mixed with some pva. You COULD also try ebay to see if there are any basing materials being sold in Japan by ebay sellers or if you have some good friends that live outside of Japan, they could perhaps pick you up some stuff and send it to you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/#findComment-1054516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycow Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 The spicerack tends to have some nice stuff for scenery. And there is other stuff around the house/apartment/rathole of a home that can be used. Imagination is the key. Atoothbrush might be used for longstemmed grass. Whatever you do, dont be afraid to fail. If you take a chance you could find something sweet to share with us. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/#findComment-1054524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Don't forget you can (and a lot of modellers do) paint your flock/static grass. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/#findComment-1054526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixupi Posted July 14, 2006 Author Share Posted July 14, 2006 Don't forget you can (and a lot of modellers do) paint your flock/static grass. Yeah, I have a feeling this will be my fate. Thanks for the responses, guys. I'll keep trying, who knows if I take enough chances maybe I'll find something...I'll keep you guys in the loop. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/#findComment-1054806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Another thing to avoid is all 1 color of static grass or flock. Mixing it together will give you a far more "real" look to it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/#findComment-1054812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Jeramakus Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Sesame and mustard seeds as well as coffee grounds are good for basic turf. Coffee grounds? What an awesome idea! I grind my own pot of coffee every morning so I'm in no short supply. Nice! However, mustard and sesame seeds? Crushed or whole? Their shapes would indicate the former. Do tell... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/#findComment-1054819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonforge Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Try looking on ebay in the train section and the military modeling section like for armor. I find lots of sellers on there selling ground work materials. I bought some really cool leaves that were made from laser cut paper on ebay last month from a shop in the UK. Use search words like static grass leaves foilage trees But Im supprised with the huge military modeling following your having a hard time finding materials. Also many Modelers use dried plants and flowers along with dried spices and tea leaves and even seads. For adhearing them down try clear Matt Medium which is a acrylic artists medium to hold it down. Its as strong as glue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/#findComment-1054827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixupi Posted July 15, 2006 Author Share Posted July 15, 2006 But Im supprised with the huge military modeling following your having a hard time finding materials. Also many Modelers use dried plants and flowers along with dried spices and tea leaves and even seads. For adhearing them down try clear Matt Medium which is a acrylic artists medium to hold it down. Its as strong as glue. It's funny you mention that.... A fellow who came over from France to help out the GW Tokyo store said that the Japanese there are terrible when it comes to making terrain/foilage. So they offer classes to help teach them how to do it appropriately. Then again, I've seen people playing combat patrol there with bare metal Sisters :wacko: I found this extremely amusing. There is a military hobby shop I visit as well and they lack anything terrain wise other than prop pieces....bunkers/shovels/sandbags/you get the idea. Plus I have to pay 4.25USD roughly per bottle of vallejo. GW pots are 4USD. Plus it doesn't save any money to order online because of shipping 90% of the time, unless the shop is U.K. or Aussie based. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/#findComment-1054856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penitent Dreadnought Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 A fellow who came over from France to help out the GW Tokyo store said that the Japanese there are terrible when it comes to making terrain/foilage. He's obviously not familiar with "Hobby Japan". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/#findComment-1054878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonforge Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 So what all materials are you looking for exactly? Many are light weight..maybe I can help you out.. do you use PayPal? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/#findComment-1054913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixupi Posted July 15, 2006 Author Share Posted July 15, 2006 He's obviously not familiar with "Hobby Japan". ^_^ Yeah. But he's sorta right from what I've seen...I think it has a lot to do with the fact so much of Japan's hobbies is airbrush related. It's near impossible to find a good brush or paint here for that matter without it being a specialty or art store. dragonforge: Honestly, not sure what I'm looking for because I don't know what there is! I'm going into Tokyo on Monday....so I'll let you guys know what I found(digging deep now). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/#findComment-1054921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obliterator Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 I guess it will all depend on the kind of ground cover material you want. I usually use whatever I can get my hands on (even if it's bright green or yellow), and repaint it. This gets rid of the unnatural colors you mostly have, plus on static grass you get rid of the 'silky' look as well. A lot of model railroad companies have a decent range of flock. If you're going for longer grass, try the DIY stores, in the plumbing materials section. Look for flax, to secure the joints of the piping in your bathroom. If you soak the flax in a little tub of water with some green paint in it, the flax gets a nice color range from the green you select (fresh, living grass) to the tan of the dried flax (dried/dead grass). Once dry you can cut it to the length you want, and make it look as irregular as you want. Great stuff for basing your scouts in elephant grass. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/#findComment-1055018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primarch16 Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 I got my snow and sand flock from GW, it may expensive for a bit of sand but its good stuff, lasts long too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/#findComment-1055044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Sha'son Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Sesame and mustard seeds as well as coffee grounds are good for basic turf. Coffee grounds? What an awesome idea! I grind my own pot of coffee every morning so I'm in no short supply. Nice! However, mustard and sesame seeds? Crushed or whole? Their shapes would indicate the former. Do tell... whole mustard seed for a really rugged terrain. also works good for adding a gurgling effect for nurglish bases. Same for sesame seeds. tea leaves work great as well. i drink all manner of tea, so there is a wide variety of flocking choices, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/#findComment-1055085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Jeramakus Posted July 15, 2006 Share Posted July 15, 2006 Nice! Thanks for that clarification... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/#findComment-1055094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinobi_soldier Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 @ angelicus sanctus: ii hope you made the tea first as to not waste it... i would reccomend the GW urban basing kit. although expensive, it is great for making models with extrordinary bases. outside of that mailordering gw flocks in an alternative Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/#findComment-1055678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Angelus Sanctus Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 @ angelicus sanctus: ii hope you made the tea first as to not waste it... i would reccomend the GW urban basing kit. although expensive, it is great for making models with extrordinary bases. outside of that mailordering gw flocks in an alternative Indeed i did make the tea first :) Just a case of once i was finished with it putting it on some kitchen towel and letting it dry out. Once dry put it into a lil container and voila instant terrain (and the tea itself was good too). The Urban basing kit isnt too bad, indeed it is expensive but you do get some nice stuff (i personally bought two). The downside is, these kits are splash releases, so if you havent got one by now, you might be hard pressed to get one. Another idea is go to these cheap lil discount stores as ive picked up a few bottles worth of decorative stones here and there for use. $2 AUD for a very large bottles worth. Easy to use, very cheap and is always another source for basing items. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/#findComment-1055709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obliterator Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 outside of that mailordering gw flocks in an alternative If you're going to mailorder, mailorder from companies specialised in landscaping materials, like Woodland Scenics or Busch. They have more realistic flocking then GW, and most of the time at a more decent price as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/#findComment-1056156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Chaplain Ginn Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 I like te GW static grass because of its blends. If you look there is even a little red in there...That being said I like Woodland senics because the quantity is right in those huge canisters. Quick question... What are good blending mixes for woodland senics?: What color/ratio. If you can please post pics of your blends...I have had a devil of a time mixing woodland senics to get a good blend and Im tired of Green GW grass everywhere...thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/91723-where-do-you-guys-get-your-flock/#findComment-1056197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.