Brother Gothard Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 True story. So I'm playing a game and I'm all .. "These plastic marines are making me angry! Rawr! Time for some paint!" So then I'm at the store and I'm like .. "I'm not taking any chances! Give me your best White Primer, please!" And the clerk is like "This is a new can of GW White! Rawr! It'll do you fine!" And then I'm all .. "Lets go to a non-humid, dry, not windy area with no direct sunlight! Sweet!" *shake shake shake ... shake shake shake ... shake shake shake .. 5 minutes of shaking -- SPRAAAAAY!* And then I'm like .. "Sweet, lets let this shizzle dry!" ... *time passes* ... :) :P :cuss :cuss :cuss LOOK WHAT HAPPENED!!!! How. HOW did this happen?! WHY. WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN EVERY DAMNED TIME!? Now I have 32 Marines with a coating of fuzz. FUZZ!!! Besides burning down GW Headquarters AND the store that sold me this FILTH they called paint, what can I do? HELP ME!!!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazyhobo7 Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 i truely have nothing constructive to add just. I HATE GW PRIMER WITH A PASSION. and nowhere else close sells anything different. :) + :P + :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1057817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
frontierpediatry Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Either strip it or brush off the worst of it with a toothbrush, it'll be fine once you paint it. If Adam Rantz has taught us anything, it's that you can still win a Slayer Sword with a fuzzy model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1057839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boltman Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Actually, a little dusty feel to it is what you should aim for, so long as teh bumps are not impossible to cover. It gives better hold for your next paint layers. For example, my Galadriel that won gold at GD canada was primed white and looked a lot like your result. If you want the slippery coat of white, ultra smooth, you need a thicker layer. Spray your models from 6 inches away. A lot of paint will accumulate, but let it dry most of the solvant evaporates and you'll be left with a smooth primer coat. It will tend to cover details a bit though, be warned! Boltman Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1057889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Failure590 Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 you made one fatal white primer mistake, thestore you bought that paint can from was air conditioned. THe paint was at a different tempature then your minis, which more often then not will leave a nice fuzzy coat. Solution ... leave your paint and your minis out in your garage for at least an hour to even out their temps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1057896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaguewielder Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 GW white primer can be a B***H sometimes cant it? I would recommend a coupl things One if you are realy mad that you just spent like $10 on a bad can of paint you can return it and yell real loud at the dude who sold it to you if he doesn't at least let you exchange it for another can of paint. I have also found that one way to bttle the fuzz is to spray a litle closer to the minis. Not close enough that paint is gonna drip or pool on the mini but not so far away that the only thing getting on the mini is fuzz mist. The other solution might be to get Armory primer instead. I think you will find it much more forgiving and easy to work with. No one sells it near you? No problem try the Warstore online. They provide great service. There thats my shameless plug for my favorite online hobby store. Hope this helps! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1057897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
solid snake drive Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Hey better than my first marine. mine looked like that and had the area under the armes and chest still grey. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1057898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aretziel Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 had that problem as well, think most people who been painting for a while have seen this one at least one of their minis ... problem is that GW say you should spray from X distance and if you do, you get that result ... go closer and the gas in the bottle will eat your mini away like acid ... the tip about the even temperature of the plastic and spray can I heard before but don Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1057914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 It looks ok, not that bad. I see some real fuzzyness (little white thingies on thei primer). You could try this: spray one layer: Start on the left (not hitting the miniature) move to the right (through the miniature) and stop not hitting the miniature. Do this from about 12'' away. Wait until it's dry and if there is fuzzy stuff remove that with something that doesn't leave fuzzy bits behind (so no tissue), a hard brush (useful for drybrushing) that you slightly wet could work. Repeat this until you are finished. Three layers should be enough and you should probably prime more than one miniature at a time with that technique. But try itout on one miniature first. By the way. If your problem are the little fuzy bits and not the texture of the white primer then the hard brush should be enough to remove that. If the primer texture is your problem try others. Some people like Tamya or Gunze primer. These are at the same price level as GW primer but IIRC they have specials mooth primer. And GW black primer is more smooth than the white one. I first thougth that my primer was bad (it was five years old and never used) but all white react the same. You get used to it and won't see it once it's painted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1057958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlteriusMotive Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 If this was a new can, do this when ever you get a new can its sounds like a waste but turn upside down after shaking and spray clears all the excess stuff out of the passage and if this is the first mini you painted with this can then try, don't shake to long a minute will do it okay to be safe say two. Also as others said spray about 10" away or 30cm as we say in the real world. Hope this helps, otherwise your going to have to paint them as maines with a fungl infection. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1058092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundamfan Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 I dunno, I used GW black primer, and it worked perfectly fine. In fact, it was better than the other two primers I used earlier. It went on nice and smoothly, dried quickly, and didn't cover any details, even though it looked like it would when it was wet. It was quite phenomenal. Worth the price, as far as I know. I'm not sure about the white, however. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1058116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruenor Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 You could strip them all back to the plastic using dettol, then go out and buy yourself a tin of Plastikote's Super Primer Grey, and have a wonderful, smooth looking, great keying, primed surface, all ready for painting. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1058127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Cruentus Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 I've had this problem before, moreso with GW white spray, than any other. One thing that has helped is *how* you shake the can. If you shake the can up and down, that's all well and good. The other thing you need to do is 'swirl' the can, to get the rattle part rolling around the bottom of the can for a bit (hold the can by the top, and roll your wrist). Then shake some more. If you feel like you've shaken it enough, shake it yet again. There is no such thing as overshaking. Like someone else said, you could always try armory (oh, and I have never ever had any problem with GW's black, in any weather condition, on any type of mini. Great stuff.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1058329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Chaplain Ginn Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Dude all you need is to test you spray on some sprue first... O and that fig isnt "that" bad at all. Your can isnt bad. Like was stated the can just not the same temp as outside/or your spraying too far away and the primer was drying before it hit the model. Bottom line is people should take 1 sec and test the conditions before jumping into their models. For stripping off plastic I recommend some Grez-Off degreaser...its biodegradable and all that...bottom line there is 0 risk of melting your fings...it will even leave the rocks on the base. Its made of akaline salts. 1 hour and a toothbrush your back to stage 1. Soak longer if the paint is slathered or old...but your good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1058370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aretziel Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 seems like these fuzzy things ... like threads come from the spray in some strange way ... primed 35 marines now this morning and some of them got these threads on them while others don Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1058371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orkdung Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Overall, it looks like you are spraying too far away, and too much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1058396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingZ Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 hte fuzz doesnt matter.. once you get your paint on it will be fine...if it reall bothers you just lightly brush it witha toothbrush.. I only use white primer.. it killed me that you guys will spend 10 bucks fora can of flat paint from GW.. go to walmark or whatever is near you & get a can of this 88 cent flant paint.. it works just as well.. the wihite i sometimes have a problem with the fuzzys but the balck is super clean.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1058406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmith Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 I've had the same problem with black, don't let them fool you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1058429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maelis Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 I have a better image BEHOLD Lovin' it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1058486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zain Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 also a good tip is to find out which way the wind is blowing. On more than one accasion I have been turned albino ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1058494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aretziel Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 also a good tip is to find out which way the wind is blowing. On more than one accasion I have been turned albino ;) happened to me today ... think that is why some of my minis turned powdery as well =) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1058570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 I have a better image BEHOLD Lovin' it. Now that looks strange. I know that my white primer has some texture but nothing like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1058656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sian Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 You could strip them all back to the plastic using dettol, then go out and buy yourself a tin of Plastikote's Super Primer Grey, and have a wonderful, smooth looking, great keying, primed surface, all ready for painting. :D Another vote for plastikote's primers. They rock, and have that fanspray nozzle that really helps you get the spray where you want it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1058662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubeface Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 LoL, looks like Mr. Marine used glue instead of sun-screen at the beach :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1058664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruenor Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 You could strip them all back to the plastic using dettol, then go out and buy yourself a tin of Plastikote's Super Primer Grey, and have a wonderful, smooth looking, great keying, primed surface, all ready for painting. :D Another vote for plastikote's primers. They rock, and have that fanspray nozzle that really helps you get the spray where you want it. Yeh, I've tried all kinds of primers, and haven't found anyhting that matches Plastikotes. In the US they have the Krylon range which I have on good authority are damn good too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/92044-white-primer/#findComment-1058672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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