Studio Silvernale Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Wow... Who is Zuvassin tho? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/96124-the-halfway-gods/page/3/#findComment-1149797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mabrothrax Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Zuvassian 'The Un-doer' and Necoho 'The Doubter' are two minor Chaos Gods that appear in the WFRP adventure 'Something Rotten in Kislev'. Originally the book contained details of and made significant (?) of Malal, but when the problem of rights and Intellectual Property was realised, Malal's presence was re-written and Zuvassian and Necoho were created. Rather than post a bundle more text, if you search about you'll find the excerpt from the book (it's on my website, linked on my profile). As Zuvassian and Necoho have not been mentioned since, or 'written out', they are considered to still be canon, however, since the days of the funky 80s, the Warhammer world, 40k, and the WFRP version of the world have allegedly become independent of each other so what appears in one doesn't autoatically appear in the other (at least not as you might expect), hence no space-skaven in 40k :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/96124-the-halfway-gods/page/3/#findComment-1150091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krave Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 In Fantasy, Khaine is Khorne as worshipped by the dark elves. No real difference. The Horned Rat is the Skaven God, and head of the Council of 13. Hashut is one of the chaos dwarf gods. Can't tell you much about Hashut, the CD haven;t had an army book since 5th ed. (Fantasy squats anyone?) This is a really neat topic! I hope it goes to the archives. EDIT: From Liber Chaotica:Khorne says this about Khaine "We of the Empire know the dark lord Khaine as brother to Morr, eternal rivals for that domain of death. Those of us who know of him, curse his name even as others praise it. Within our cities and our towns secret cults are born and thrive, men of low order, assassins, footpads, cut-throats and rank killers of all types who delight in death and murder. They gather together and plot their killers and raise their idol to Khaine, always a grotesque effigy with a leering face and a huge, fanged mouth with four arms, each clutching a dagger." And from "The Vile and Loathsome Ratmen" "For what is the Horned Rat if not the ultimate expression of the cunning and hunger of all his children? He is an ancient evil: an ageless, endlessly patient, insidious horror, gnawing forever at the edges of realtity. He is an eteranl schemer, a skilled and subtle manipulator, a creature of dark and feral cunning: The Lord of the World Below." Do we know anything about Mermedy, the nurgle/khorne mix? It has been postulated that he is the god of eternal fear, who seeks to keep his minions eternally horrified, plagued by nightmares. Could we expand on this to say that as one rises in the service of Mermedy, one becomes the causer og nightmares? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/96124-the-halfway-gods/page/3/#findComment-1152897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 Many of those minor Chaos gods are based upon aspects of other chaos gods. Why not base them on elements instead. Or maybe as going as far as one of them also being a C'Tan who found a way to become a Warpentity. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/96124-the-halfway-gods/page/3/#findComment-1158461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 While anything goes in a universe as fluid as this one, I sincerely doubt the C'than turned-warp entity theory. The Warp is the bane of the C'tan. I really like the idea of elemental chaos powers. :wink: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/96124-the-halfway-gods/page/3/#findComment-1158505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Pilgrim Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 ive come up with some rules for using inderpendant demons in the homegrown rules forum. I would be greatful for any suggestions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/96124-the-halfway-gods/page/3/#findComment-1160290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Maybe some standard statts as a starting point for creating youre greater deamon. Followed by a list of abilities/ upgrades/ etc. For those stats maybe something like these: Ws6, Bs6, S7, T5, W4, I5, A3, Ld10, Sv-/5+ Points 145 Special Rules: Summoned, monstrous Creature, Demon, Invulnerable Save, fearless, Markless (no model in the army may take a mark when he is used, only mocu) You must add between 30 and 100 points of options Options could consist of the following (some examples) -Sorcerer, Deamonic Flight, Brass Armour, etc etc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/96124-the-halfway-gods/page/3/#findComment-1173436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Draconis Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 Why would the emperor be a chaos god of order. Would he not be a god of balance. It would make sense because humans are a balancing point of all gods. We have traits of each equally so our god would be a combination of all traits. He would strive to keep old traditions, while bring about changes for the good, would seek perfection while maintaining a level of disiapline and of course he would wage war when neccesary and seek other ways around it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/96124-the-halfway-gods/page/3/#findComment-1188228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted February 19, 2007 Share Posted February 19, 2007 The Emperor isn't a god he himself said so and does not wish to be reffered as one either. (in fact he even says there are no such things as Gods) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/96124-the-halfway-gods/page/3/#findComment-1188616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitorMatticus Posted February 20, 2007 Share Posted February 20, 2007 This is all very intresting, very intresting indeed. I really like the whole malal is the opposite of the emperor thing, it does make more sense than what most people come up with. Where malal is pure hate and chaos always fracturing and favoring the loner, the emperor is acceptance, unity, and bringing everyone together. I really like this thread and i hope you do write more on this subject, just dont overdo it as this is really plausable right now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/96124-the-halfway-gods/page/3/#findComment-1189411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic D Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 While anything goes in a universe as fluid as this one, I sincerely doubt the C'than turned-warp entity theory.The Warp is the bane of the C'tan. I really like the idea of elemental chaos powers. :rolleyes: No its not just their armys that can Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/96124-the-halfway-gods/page/3/#findComment-1195960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Maelstrom Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 You guys mentioned a 3 dimensional star, with every point on the x, y, z axes representing a different emotion or combination of emotions with minor gods and powers in the star. What if the star is multitudinous in its dimensions? Surely the gods of the warp aren't limited to 3 dimensions. I could start getting into theoretical physics but I'm going to restrain myself. Also, on the note of space skaven- Hrud. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/96124-the-halfway-gods/page/3/#findComment-1470323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Moegnar Posted May 2, 2008 Share Posted May 2, 2008 I thought Malal would be the medium as he is the enemy of himself he is the Anti-Chaos while being chaos himself :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/96124-the-halfway-gods/page/3/#findComment-1560866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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