Daeothar Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Right, so the festivities start Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanarin Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Sorry guys, hate to tell you but I need to bug out of this, I thought I could get a good picture, but my camera is absolute crap (Kodak 310C.) So unless someone else in this has that camera and can help me out to make sure my mini doesn't look like complete crap when a pic is taken. I am SoL. I regret to hear that. If this project become s a succes though, we may not only start more advanced groups but might also start regularly with basic groups too. So bide your time, as you might get another chance. Taking you off the list for now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Raiun Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Yeah im out as well, i posted in the original topic, you must not have seen it. I will be keeping up to help all the others out though. Sorry, and Good Luck!! Same here: I regret to hear that. If this project become s a succes though, we may not only start more advanced groups but might also start regularly with basic groups too. So bide your time, as you might get another chance. Taking you off the list for now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Omnius Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Hopefully this pic will be better than my last... Trooper Duncel reporting in! http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f317/BackroomWorkshop/Mentors/mtest02.jpg I'll be getting the pads & backpack on him soon, I promise. Or, would it be alright if I added them on after he is painted? ++ Omnius ++ It's okay to wait with the pads, backpack and bolter till the rest of the mini has been painted. In fact I'd advise everyone to do so for the bolter and backpack at any rate... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Wyvern Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I pulled out as well. I have the basics down and reading the tutorials I am just getting into layering. I want to leave it open for people brand new and I have ventured into a little higher things. I understand some techiniques its refining them I am in need of. I will wait till the more advanced boot camp begins. Again: I regret to hear that. If this project become s a succes though, we may not only start more advanced groups but might also start regularly with basic groups too. So bide your time, as you might get another chance. Taking you off the list for now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedalin Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I'll post up my mini when I get home from class. He's got some paint already on him- he's made from parts of a recently disassaembled marine I got from a friend- but that'll be stripped after I post the picture. I've never stripped with simple green before, any able to tell me how long it takes? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodwraith Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 tanarin: can you give me the specifics of your camera? What functions it has on it? what mega pixel it is? Things like that, i might be able to help. If you have specific info on how to improve pictures with his camera, you might want to pm him to get him to. That way we can keep this thread limited to discussions on painting. Thanks in advance if you're able to help him out. Omnius: mold lines need to be removed, and i am looking to assemble mind the same way. We'll get to that in due time. We're looking to see the raw material right now, so to speak. Mods: do you want the model fully assembled? or is it ok if we paint it in bits or whatever? Assemble it as far as possible without limiting access to the rest of the mini. So, it's okay to leave the shoulderpads and bolter off, but make sure the rest is there. Model up soon :) I'm not a mod and can't speak for them but maybe it better if new people are looking to join they contact daeothar and he makes the decisions, this is after all, as i understand it, his baby. Indeed; PM with your questions any time, as long as they're not painting related; those you can post here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barret Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Ahoy, May I present Brother Skarn of the Sons of Malice, my unwitting victim brave volunteer for this. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/ElcidBarret/Sons%20of%20Malice/TestMarine1-Front.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/ElcidBarret/Sons%20of%20Malice/TestMarine1-Left1.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/ElcidBarret/Sons%20of%20Malice/TestMarine1-Right.jpg I went with this guy because he'll need the four things I need the most work on: black, white, bone and flesh. For those who don't know, the SoM scheme is quartered black/white with metal trim. I want to add in red detailing to liven it up a bit. Maybe a red helmet... Cheers, Barret Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedalin Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Here we go: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y244/Reverin/PA160194.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y244/Reverin/PA160193.jpg Brother Solan of the Gale Fists' Second Company, reporting for duty. Unfortunately, my camera batteries died in the middle of taking pictures, and this is the best shot I got. I know the focus seems to be trained on his knee, when the thing charges back up I'll experiment more and figure out what I did wrong ^^;; Think I've figured it out now. Also, turns out the camera didn't die, it just went into sleep mode. Shows hom much I know about the godforsaken device xD And, like I said, now that the model's photographed, time to strip off my buddy's old paint. Any last minute tips before I drop him in a bucket of Simple Green? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlteriusMotive Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I also pulled out, due to skill level. I wanted to allow some more unaccomplished painteds get some good experience. And once more: I regret to hear that. If this project become s a succes though, we may not only start more advanced groups but might also start regularly with basic groups too. So bide your time, as you might get another chance. Taking you off the list for now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin of Death Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Is there going to be a section on skin/eyes etc, or should I give him a helmet? Give him a helmet for now; it's the most basic. We'll discuss faces, skintones, eyes etc some other time... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granis Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Allright, I got the Mini Together, I assume the first Pic is pre-prime? Well, here it is pre-prime: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/Clawshrimpy/DCPwrFstBOOTCAMP1-1.jpg A Death Companymen with a Power Fist. I'm in the progress of cleaning the mold lines and such and preparing for priming. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tue__Kaae Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 good to see this bugger get off the ground, and omnius, buch better :blush: there's just one thing that screams in my mind at this time; doesn't any of you remove mould lines?? that's the very first thing you should do, even before assembly. it's a shame to see tho so many people dropping out. I can understand the reasons, but it would be really good to get some replacements pinguin: if you desire to get better at doing favces abd eyes, I thing you should put a bare head on your model. I for one will help with that too -Tue Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodwraith Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 tue: i think he should stick to the requirements of the bootcamp. Which is a basic marine, which says helmeted to me. If he wishes help with more difficult things he can start his own thread. Sorry if i sound harsh but the rules seem clear to me and i think sticking to rules makes these this progress more smoothly. This is just my understanding and mods can feel free to correct me. Hope i wasn't to harsh. Great to see such a great sculpter and painter ready to offer advice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granis Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 @mold Lines, I've never been good At Removing those things, But After I spray Primer on them (Maybe it's the type/color I use) Mold Lines arent really noticible anymore. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodwraith Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 granis: i am afraid they are noticeable and they can ruin a really good paint job. Take a sharp hobby knife and gently scrape the mold lines away and then file the area smooth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granis Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I try that, I allways end up cutting myself, so I'm if I have mold lines I have mold lines. They don't seem to be very noticible to me at least, not something to risk cutting myself over because I get frustrated when I can't slice em away. I Don't see what makes em such a big deal, Ypu're not going to see the damn things at Table Distance anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronophague Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I try that, I allways end up cutting myself, so I'm if I have mold lines I have mold lines. They don't seem to be very noticible to me at least, not something to risk cutting myself over because I get frustrated when I can't slice em away. Tru using the blade sideways to scrape off the mold lines, works nicely as well, and you shouldn't hurt yourself so much. Cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granis Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I try that, and I just can't scrape em off no matter how hard I try, I get by just fine with Mold lined models, they really arent noticible unless you're looking at them really up close, whem most people only really judge models at "Table Distance" Which isn't as noticable, because that's how people are going to see them in gameplay. Edit: I have a lot of other Painted/Basecoated mini's with mold lines, and noone has ever really given me a hard time about them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Omnius Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Tue__Kaae Today, 11:24 AM Post #14 doesn't any of you remove mould lines?? You mean the lines aren't armoured plating detail? :blush: Would a light filing suffice to remove mold lines? Such as the longer ones on the legs, etc. ++ Omnius ++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeothar Posted October 17, 2006 Author Share Posted October 17, 2006 Granis, although I can see your point in regards to the mouldlines, I still recommend taking the time to remove them. If you are willing to take your painting to the next level, you should also be aware that the painting will invite people to look closer, and they will see the lines. It really is an integral part of the proces and not at all that arduous as you might think. At any rate; that will be the first stage in prepping the miniature, amongst some other, menial tasks that you may not like at first, but will greatly improve your painting. The stage will commence when the first pictures are in for all participants. On that note; all participants, please post your pictures no later than 1800h CET tomorrow, Wednesday October 18th, so we can proceed with stage 1. To facilitate overviewing the entire proces from conception to sealing, I will post a list of the different stages and their deadlines either tonight or tomorrow morning. This might help in understanding some stages and might be helpful for those wanting to lend their advice as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
warwizard_99 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I will not be able to post a pic of my marine until tomorrow. I have class tonight until 10p CST. Okay, acknowledging the time differences for alot of you, I'll go with 2400h CET instead, giving you some time in the late afternoon/evening to post. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granis Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Damn, Removing these lines are so hard, and I don't even have a file to smooth it out, so I still have to live with a bit of bumpyness, but I hope that at least will dissappear a bit after Priming. Update for mold line improvement (I hope) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/Clawshrimpy/DCPwrFstBOOTCAMP1-2.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemFX Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Well, same pic as before, but here: http://nemfx.8m.net/cgi-bin/i/Ultramarines...06/photo140.jpg Sorry it's not the best picture, they'll be better once he's painted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darzoni Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I try that, I allways end up cutting myself, so I'm if I have mold lines I have mold lines. They don't seem to be very noticible to me at least, not something to risk cutting myself over because I get frustrated when I can't slice em away. Prior to doing minis I was building cars, airplanes, etc... Until I got comfortable with the blade, I was always nicking myself with the knife removing mold lines. Heck, I still have nasty scars on several of my fingers from where I gave myself some really good slices as a wee one. It's just a matter of practice, Granis. Scraping with the blade instead of slicing will probably help you in regards to removing the big mold lines on the legs, but scraping doesn't work well in tight or small spaces like inside corners. You get the surface a bit more even than with slicing though, and it'll save you some headaches when you go to paint. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/97137-bc-basic-painting-skills-bootcamp/#findComment-1116610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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