madscuzzy Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 It has been a looong time since I have posted any minis up here. I have been working on stuff... just not at the rate that I'd like to... heh. Truth be told, I have been working on my marines on and off, but have taken up other projects such as orks and terrain... ANYWAYS... here is the latest project that I have been working on. Some of the more veteran players might recognise what they are based on. They may not be necessarily pre-heresy but they are of the previous gen... http://scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/Landspeeders/TORNADO1.jpg http://scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/Landspeeders/TORNADO2.jpg http://scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/Landspeeders/TORNADO3.jpg http://scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/Landspeeders/TYPHOON1.jpg http://scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/Landspeeders/TYPHOON2.jpg http://scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/Landspeeders/TYPHOON3.jpg Now don't ask me when they will get painted. They will when they will... XD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Rathul Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Uhhhh, if it was pre-heresy, why do they have mark 7 power armor? :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2433699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlfleetw Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Uhhhh, if it was pre-heresy, why do they have mark 7 power armor? :D They may not be necessarily pre-heresy but they are of the previous gen... Reading is fundamental. Nice job on the conversion work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2433711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronKobra Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 I think I prefer this hybrid than either the old metal version and the new plastic one! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2433715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
averykess Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 That it very nice looking. Care to give a parts list or make a tutorial? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2433728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
madscuzzy Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 The design is pre-heresy I guess, but it doesn't have to mean that it is pre-heresy does it? A lot of my current marines are going with an updated, more mordern PH design, or rather, 2nd ed designs, where its an amalgam of then and now, and functioning as now. Hmmm... take it that they found a stash of old stuff and incorporated them into their current arsenal...XD Also, if you note, the shoulder pads also signify that they are veterans, so I guess the older the speeder, the better it is, the better to assign it to vets? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2433731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Replica Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 VERY cool, certainly brings back memories of the old metal brick! Also, nothing to say a pre-heresy land speeder wouldn't still bee in use in the 41st Millennium. Im fairly sure the 'speeders used in the bulk of the heresy were the ones before this one, more like just a flying couch with a multi-melta, but im also pretty sure this pattern was developed during the heresy too, so this model could pretty much be anything you want! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2433742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Doyle Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Always loved that design, I personally hate the new speeders. I second the petition for a tutorial/parts used in the conversion and kudos to the result! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2433743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durus Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 That is great! Looks much better than the normal one. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2433757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Very nice conversions, brings back some semi-unpleasant memories of trying to put together the old metal Ravenwing speeder I used to have though. I wouldn't worry about not getting stuff painted, I'm forever building and tinkering with stuff that sits unpainted for ages, it's easier to do that than trying to paint when the kids are up :) Great to see some other marines who aren't afraid of a little rocket exhaust as well :) As for the pre/post heresy debate, I think since Marine chapters maintain vehicles and suits of armour for thousands and thousands of years you can easily say that they are 10,000 year old speeders crewed by contemporary veterans... James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2433771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
madscuzzy Posted June 14, 2010 Author Share Posted June 14, 2010 http://www.scuzworks.com/SL40K/WIP/Landspeeders/TORNADO1col.jpg It wasn't a really cheap build, but it has parts that I thought would look good. You may of course, use your own descretion to which parts to use, should you want to build something similar. Green - WW launcher vents Blue - RW landspeeder (or any generic landspeeder) Red - Scout speeder Note that the nose armour is similar across the board, so you can use either. I used the SS one cuz I had old speeders, whose edges weren't as crisp (prollie old mold), so I used the SS one instead. The foot pedals came from the side pedals from the SS, and the top vent was the SS one chopped down in half. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2434144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Fire Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 That looks really cool! Makes me want to take on a Vehicle Conversion of my own! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2434175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solamus Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Looks really nice. :) One thing that has always puzzled me though is why the Imperium has never up-armoured the landspeeder (well apart from the forgeworld version). :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2434194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irabrai Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 I do love the Tornado you've done. The old land speeders are 1000 times better than the new ones. Might have to make one myself Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2434243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Looks really nice. :) One thing that has always puzzled me though is why the Imperium has never up-armoured the landspeeder (well apart from the forgeworld version). :P From fluff it's because the Power Armour provides much better protection than sticking armour plates on it (which would result in a loss of speed), the armour is pretty much to hold it together and protect the flight instruments. I like this style but a bit too expensive for my models Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2434249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 I think it's stated in the current codex entry for the Land Speeder that the armour was added to earlier patterns of speeders to protect the comparatively delicate flight instumentation as full power armour provided more than adequate protection for the pilot and co-pilot. According to Imperial Armour II the Tempest (the FW one) forgoes the normal long range reconnisance and patrol role of the lighter speeders, fulfilling the role of a pure gunship instead. The Tempest was pioneered by the White Scars during the 'Evacuation of Barac' and was designed to provide fast moving support to attack bike squadrons. A flight of three Tempests was even credited with bringing down a Traitor Reaver Titan during the action. The heavier armour and weapons loadout on the Tempest affected the manouverability speeder so it was decided that it would be crewed by a single Marine assisted by slaved targeting systems and a dedicated machine spirit. In the hands of a veteran pilot (again according to the current codex) the agility of the more mainstream patterns of Land Speeder more than compensates for them having lighter armour. James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2434254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlauG Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Reminds me a bit more of the original RT metal speeder than the 2E Speeder which is the one the Horus Heresy CCG artwork made iconic as the Pre-Heresy era speeder in my mind. :( But nice all the same! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2434300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.A.Rorie Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Score!!!!!!! I was planning on doing this myself but you made ite easier for me as I can just foow your parts list and follow your design..... My only comment that is negative about it is not he crew but the rear stablisers on the side should be moved to the mid section of the engine pod to do make more accurate of the 2nd edition pester one bit that doesn't really matter as it is still freaking awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2434322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
madscuzzy Posted June 14, 2010 Author Share Posted June 14, 2010 I took some artistic licensing on that and left it as the current speeder wing design. It gives an overall more sleek look to it IMHO. Also, there should be a fin at the bottom, which I left as the sensor. It still overall has the + look... but with a slight variance. :) To be frank, the WW parts didn't have to be there. I just put those in cuz I like large vents (whether they work is another issue altogether...XD) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2434381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
averykess Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 It wasn't a really cheap build, but it has parts that I thought would look good. You may of course, use your own descretion to which parts to use, should you want to build something similar. Green - WW launcher vents Blue - RW landspeeder (or any generic landspeeder) Red - Scout speeder Note that the nose armour is similar across the board, so you can use either. I used the SS one cuz I had old speeders, whose edges weren't as crisp (prollie old mold), so I used the SS one instead. The foot pedals came from the side pedals from the SS, and the top vent was the SS one chopped down in half. Nice! Where are the rocket pods from that are pictured in later photos? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2434412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.A.Rorie Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Land speeder storm cerebus launcher and I am going to borrow you design when I do mine it is just so sweet! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2434440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Phenomenal work! I'm an old 2nd Ed veteran, and I recognized it immediately. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2434531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
philbrad Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Fantastic model - expensive way to get an old school speeder but top marks on ingenuity. Great conversion. PhilB ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2434561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekLee688 Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 I've been tempted to try to kit bash a tandem seat speeder, more like a moden gunship. However, that's alittle more than what my skills are up for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2434668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
averykess Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 I've been tempted to try to kit bash a tandem seat speeder, more like a moden gunship. However, that's alittle more than what my skills are up for. that might look a bit like the Tau Piranha. Maybe use one as a base with IG Valkyrie cockpit? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/204117-preheresy-landspeeder/#findComment-2434738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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