p049979 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Hi, I have been lurking around for a while. I have painted and still do on an off but I cant say Im that good, I am also however a 3D artist as well! So this is what I have been working on and I think this is the best place to get some feedback and Ideas of where to take it. So here it is! Any Ideas of what else I can add, details, scale anything. http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb300/p049979/Marine_01.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard12 Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 wow, that looks great, my only thought is the eagle wings on the helmet look abit like a moustach at the front. maybe you could make it so it's a bit more like a beak. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2240721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasoroth Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 I agree with Wizard12 in that the front could use a bit of 'beaking' up. Also the legs are out of proportion for the body and should be made longer/larger. I love it though, good work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2240746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naglfar Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 1+ about the helmet. Also, I think either, the torso & shoulders are a bit over sized, or everything else to a tiny bit too small. Not just the legs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2240809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codex Grey Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Good start! One of my goals is to create a space marine in 3D as well some day, and this is inspiring. What software did you use? I agree with Hasoroth, the legs should be bulked up and elongated. Unless your going for a miniature look and not going for 'realistic' proportions. EDIT: this is a good reference for what I would consider proper proportions for a space marine. Picture Link Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2240829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
p049979 Posted January 9, 2010 Author Share Posted January 9, 2010 I have updated the helmet, not realy sure if Its how i want it or not but its certainly better with more up front. http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb300/p049979/Marine_03.jpg I have alos scaled the legs up a bit, somewhere in the reagon of 8%. http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb300/p049979/Marine_02.jpg The head is a bit smaller than normal, I was hopeing to go for the slightly out of scale look you get in a lot of arwork, So the arms and head may be a little out of scale. In fact looking at the image below I i think the whole head and helmet need to move down and I need to increase the neck opening in the armour to acomadate it? http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb300/p049979/Marine_04.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2240838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasoroth Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 If that was 8% could I recommend 15%? Maybe I just have a fetish for large marine legs (:lol:) but it seems like you're almost there. I love the helmet, the beak isn't quite in the style of the Honor Guard model, I think it looks better. Great work, love the colors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2240847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicCreations Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 You are definitely almost there, make the head a tad smaller and lower set and I think it would be there. All artwork seems to show the marines at different scales, so just go with what yout think, but I prefer the big bodies and small heads type, like in the picture link :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2240903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateJake Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Wow this is awesome. Although the beak/helmet still needs work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2241452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peck Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 That's looking fantastic so far. I'd agree that you should lower its head somewhat and widen the neck opening. Also, I'd consider making the wings on the breastplate longer, so that they reach pretty-well underneath the rims of the pauldrons, like the ones on the actual Astartes models do. This, I think, will emphasise the barrel-chested look of the Marine and make it look more impressive. Keep it up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2241568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midas Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 all of the above I cant wait to see it done. NICE WORK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2242078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alys Dwr Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 My first thought was "the legs are too small". Then i scrolled down to your revised legs and i think they look pretty much in proportions for a man. I too still think they need to be bigger and that instead of scaling up, you should elongate the shin and make the greave slightly bulkier. It will no longer be in real-world proportion but it will look more like a marine by the established 40k artwork. I think the helmet looks very good as is and like the overall detail you have on this, keep it up! Al Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2242322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Lysander Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 The scale is great, good work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2243095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
p049979 Posted January 12, 2010 Author Share Posted January 12, 2010 So I have finaly finished the back pack and all the other random little things that needed doing. I pulled it all apart to check and group stuff up and while I was there I did a quick render. Now its on the enormous job of UVs! Then some texures for it. Thanks for all the feedback I think the proportions are much better now. http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb300/p049979/BeakApart_01.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2244959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martox Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Looking at the exploded version there; the helmet seems a bit narrow. Could jsut be because the wings aren't there to give it the added bulk, but it does seem off. Also; I can't thank you enough for that exploded view. I've always had problems when it came to making the shoulders. I could never figure out how they would work; particularly for a bone rig. When I get around to trying a marine model again, I'll have to remember that. And the little added benefits of that exploded rig; such as the leg setup you use. In my old models, the legs were single joined pieces, made rigging and texturing difficult. Excellent work so far; and also great work on the Terminator scene you have in your photobucket. I look forward to seeing thise finished soon! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2245137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Lysander Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Sweet work on the rendering. What program do you use? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2245689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
p049979 Posted January 15, 2010 Author Share Posted January 15, 2010 Hi, Thanks for the kind words, I'm working in Maya and photoshop for the textures. I will also be doing some Mudbox work for details such as the skull and what not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2249341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
p049979 Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 So I have done the UVs for the helmet and done a first pass on the texture for it. Its mostly to get an idea of how the rest of the armour will look. Comments and suggestions are very welcome. http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb300/p049979/Helemt_01.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2250346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkdotzip Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 diggin the designs dude. looks good Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2250450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
insomniacpyro Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Wow, that's really good! I wasn't sure at first if it looked good but just seeing the detail on the helmet textures makes me want more! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2250555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominar_Mortis Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 first up, this looks amazing, kudos you have some real talent next, tho the helmet looks great, the final render you have there, i'm not diggin the blue and it's detail, also it looks pinched in the forehead, not as round as i'm used to but that gold face plate, :D DM Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2250624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Lysander Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 The helmet is great work. The dusty effect is good, as is the faded out effect of white paint, and the battle damage on the gold leaf. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2251868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother DjoulZ Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 I'm no expert in 3D, so I couldn't really compare your work to anything, but it looks truly wonderful. Please continue to post pics. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2251883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 whats the poly count? also can we get a look at the uv map?is it rigged aswell? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2251925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
p049979 Posted January 23, 2010 Author Share Posted January 23, 2010 So this is the next update, I have done most of the UVs for the basic Armour pieces. There is still a lot of extra detail bits that will need doing and to be honest making as well. I have noticed a few areas that night need some extra work as well. For now I'm trying to get the armour right. I have decided to go for a worn look rather than an out right damaged one. http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb300/p049979/LegRender.jpg Some of the decal bits like the eagle and the extra panels on the side are still wip, will need some wear and tear added to them. for you sarabando a UV layout of the leg http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb300/p049979/Leg_01.jpg I will get the actual texture up when its a bit more done, the poly count is well just high its a subdivision model so it smooths up to be a lot in the hundreds of thousands maybe millions when its done. I have done game stuff but I like to do things just for render when I work on personal projects. Again any c&c is welcome especially on how the armour should look and how much/little damage it should have. I'm always a bit torn as they are meant to look after there gear religiously :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/189275-ultramarine-honor-guard-3d/#findComment-2258975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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