veterannoob Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 This is meant to be fun and not mean, if that could somehow possibly come from this... I'm curious as to your thoughts on pronunciation in BL books or really any fluff materials. I tend to take mine from the audio book if there is one or from staff and authors. Every BL author I've interviewed has said they don't tell the actor(s) how to pronounce names, which I can see because sometimes in audio dramas or books the same actor will pronounce a name differently, as in the director decides what pronunciation will be used for each piece, or the actors just do. No problem all good. We have some fun in my gaming groups teasing each other about this. There's no wrong or right way. I just decided to go ahead and write this when in The Either audio drama it took me a few mentions before I heard this pronunciation for the first time "Ezzz-ik-kyle" which didn't register until he talked about a topknot:) That seems to be one the biggest: Ab-uh-don vs. a-badd-in From the same narrator I hear Row-boot vs. Ro-boot-eh What pronunciations are hard for you, or fun to compare with your friends. Do you encounter multiple pronunciations in the material or books? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Both Ezekiel [jəħezˈqel] (Ezekyle is just a simple transliteration, not a different version of the same name) and Abaddon /əˈbæ.dn̩/ have known and established pronunciations. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4293655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Tyranids is a good one; some people say Tih-Ruh-Nids (like Tyranny) and others say Tie-Ran-Ids (like Tyrant). Both seem like pretty reasonable conclusions, which is right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4293683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Centurion Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Primarchs. Some say prim-ark, and I say pry-mark. I don't know which is right. I agree with the nids one, it should be tear-a-nids. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4293687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
veterannoob Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 It amuses me and we poke fun at (or, UK I learned last year they say "take the piss out of") other podcasters or gaming friends and have some fun. Most recently has been decals ( with Canada and Australia saying deh-kels and US dee-kals and mostly in UK as well. It's become just "transfers" for our buds at Age of Darkness podcast:) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4293705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Primarchs. Some say prim-ark, and I say pry-mark. I don't know which is right. I agree with the nids one, it should be tear-a-nids. I go for Pry-Mark, which amused my girlfriend when I was telling her about something 30k-ish because Primark (same pronunciation) is a chain of budget clothes stores here in the UK. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4293750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosco Toppings Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I would pronounce Horus as "whore-us" but some seem to pronounce it "horace" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4293906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldier of Dorn Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I would pronounce Horus as "whore-us" but some seem to pronounce it "horace" ˈhȯr-əs is the pronounciation according to Merriam Webster. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4293909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 It was many, many years (not hyperbole, much to my shame) until I noticed that last i in Sanguinius. I still think the name sounds better without it :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4293923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Primarch is a blend of prime- (as in "Optimus Prime") and arch- (as in "archenemy"). Thus something like /praɪm'ɑːtʃ/ Tyranid is another blend, of "tyran" (post Middle French archaic for of "tyrant") and "-nid", as in "arachnid", thus, I'd say /ˈtaɪɹənɪd/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4293924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
veterannoob Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 So you would pronounce Primarch with a ch at end instead of a hard K sound? It's fun for me to hear how different people pronounce things. We have a guy in Minnesota who says skaven as Ska-venn and screws with us by doing that. I love Midwest accents and can hear the Scandinavian roots in them. Anyone see Fargo?;) I write about the pronunciation this way btw as it's easier for me, so thanks for indulging me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4293951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icarus1138 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Lasgun apparently has some variance, everyone I've ever met has pronounced the las like last but with a z sound, but I've also heard it's supposed to be laze-gun, as in short for laser. I too say Tyranid like tyranny, but say Tyran like Tie-ren. I'm not being entirely consistent there, I admit. Primarch is interesting, I've never heard it said with a ch sound rather than a hard k. It's always been prime-ark in my experience. Speaking of which, we should probably share our own accent to help clarify this. I have a Western American accent, it's the accent common in California so it's the American accent you most often hear depicted in movies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4293997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Tyranids is a good one; some people say Tih-Ruh-Nids (like Tyranny) and others say Tie-Ran-Ids (like Tyrant). Both seem like pretty reasonable conclusions, which is right? I say Tyranids like 'Tyranny'... only that it's the British pronunciation of 'Tyranny'. Like 'Tint' or 'Timid' or 'Tinny'. So it's Tih-rah-nids for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4294004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
veterannoob Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 Good point, I'm east coast mid-Atlantic, so a softer Baltimore accent, I guess?. Las gun is another great example. I've also done laz-gun but heard Laze-gun recently. I know some British pronunciation is different from American but I always pause at those words on audio books. For example, TBA "rabid" he says Ray-bid. I tease my cohost with swathes va. Sway-thzz:) Minotaurs vs. Mine-o-tars Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4294018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Hmm. Here's my (British West Country) take: Minotaurs --> Mine-a-torz Lasgun --> Lazz-gun ('Laze-gun' is heresy of the highest order) Roboute --> Ro-boot Abaddon --> Ah-bad-un Ezekiel --> Eh-zeek-e-el Primarch --> Pry-mark Decal --> Dee-kal Horus --> The same as Frosco. Sanguinius --> San-gwin-ee-us (I know two people at my club who say "Shan-gwin-ee-us". It totally baffles me where that 'H' came from...) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4294057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soldier of Dorn Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Primarch is a blend of prime- (as in "Optimus Prime") and arch- (as in "archenemy"). Thus something like /praɪm'ɑːtʃ/ Tyranid is another blend, of "tyran" (post Middle French archaic for of "tyrant") and "-nid", as in "arachnid", thus, I'd say /ˈtaɪɹənɪd/ See, I also pronounce archenemy with a hard 'ch' sound, so I default to either prime-ark or pry-mark (usually the second one, since to me, it rolls off the tongue smoother.) In all honesty, though, I speak with a rather strange accent that no one I know can seem to identify. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4294058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Hmm. Here's my (British West Country) take: Minotaurs --> Mine-a-torz Lasgun --> Lazz-gun ('Laze-gun' is heresy of the highest order) Roboute --> Ro-boot Abaddon --> Ah-bad-un Ezekiel --> Eh-zeek-e-el Primarch --> Pry-mark Decal --> Dee-kal Horus --> The same as Frosco. Sanguinius --> San-gwin-ee-us (I know two people at my club who say "Shan-gwin-ee-us". It totally baffles me where that 'H' came from...) Minotaurs --> Min-oh-tarz. It's like a reversal of the way you and we say "privacy." Meaning we say it the correct way, naturally. Lasgun--> same Roboute--> No idea. I just use Guilliman--> Gwill-eh-mun. That's how it was pronounced in Space Marine and I'm sticking to it Abaddon--> A-bud-don. A-bad-uhn makes me grind my teeth. Ezekyle--> same Primarch--> same Decal--> same Horus--> Hore-us Sanguinius--> up until I noticed that blasted i, it was Sang-win-us. Much smoother, but still wrong Tyranid--> Teer-uh-nid. But really, tyranny and tyrant are pronounced differently, and there's no reason for that either, so dealer's choice. Pronouncing words phonetically from script (think I'm using that word correctly...) is rarely accurate in English, especially with made up words "Perturabo" doesn't fit on my tongue. Where did they come up with that name? Sigismund is an interesting one too. I always read it as Sij-is-mund. Apparently it's Sig-iss-mundt. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4294100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olis Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Roboute--> No idea. I just use Guilliman--> Gwill-eh-mun. That's how it was pronounced in Space Marine and I'm sticking to it Guilliman --> Sensibly speaking, I suppose it should be Gwill-eh-mun. I pronounce it Ghilli-mun. Sigismund is an interesting one too. I always read it as Sij-is-mund. Apparently it's Sig-iss-mundt. Same here. Sij-is-mund. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4294116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Roboute--> No idea. I just use Guilliman--> Gwill-eh-mun. That's how it was pronounced in Space Marine and I'm sticking to it Guilliman --> Sensibly speaking, I suppose it should be Gwill-eh-mun. I pronounce it Ghilli-mun. Sigismund is an interesting one too. I always read it as Sij-is-mund. Apparently it's Sig-iss-mundt. Same here. Sij-is-mund. Go fig, right? I never even thought I was saying it wrong until I saw the very large man from FW talking about him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4294119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roomsky Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I used to say Ezekyle as Ee-zee-kyill for some reason, though I've been saying Easy-kyle more recently. San-Gwinnie-us Row-boot Gilli-mun Sig-gis-mund Prime-ark Jag-gah-ti Kahn Sijill-ate Sev-ah-tar Arr-ee-mahn Gerr-roh Fay-bee-us Magnus usually comes out as Mongoose in conversation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4294144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmablasts Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Guilliman = Ghillie-man to me (fairly neutral northern English accent). Gu is usually an indication of a "hard" g in words derived from French (such as guard or guile). Sigismund - hard g. Sigillite - soft g! (As in giraffe). How about Jokaero? I tend to go for Jo (as in John) KIGH (as in kite) roe (as in row your boat). Edit - Just noticed my inconsistency between pronouncing Gu in Guilliman's and Sanguinius (gw). I think it's related to position in the words. I can't think of any examples of "gu" being pronounced "gw" in the initial position. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4294154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
veterannoob Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 Update : San-Gwynn-ee-us Pertch-ur-ah-no Jag-uh-tie Eye-doh-lawn Tor-gadd-on Gair-oh Fab-eeee-us Sig-iss-muhn Sevv-uh-tar Air-uh-mun-this ones iffy Lore-garr Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4294161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 For Guilliman, I'd consider pronunciation consistent with the root of "guile". Sigillite is curious, because if we go with the English pron. of "sigil" as \ˈsi-jil\ [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZKrxnINe-A ] then we have to stick with it thoughout and go with /-ait'/ at the end. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4294170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icarus1138 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Can I just say, the English language is an absolute mess and I love it. Dictionaries from the United States and the UK can disagree and yet both be right, since there's no universal authority that would be able to say a certain spelling or pronunciation is correct. That said, people definitely misuse the word 'decimate' and saying Minotaur as Mine-a-tor or lasgun as laze-gun is heresy. The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary. -James Nicoll Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4294235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmablasts Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I'd love to hear Roboute Guilliman pronounced by a native Francophone. It looks like a French name and could sound rather sexy in a proper French accent! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318847-pronunciation-for-fun/#findComment-4294381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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