OutlawSixActual Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Browsing through the new Ultramarines supplement, and found this reference to "Hellfury" squads as a potential step up from "Hellblasters" - anybody heard of this? Something coming down the pipe? My conspiracy-addled brain is telling me this will be a Gravis-based plasma unit - elsewhere on the page, there is reference to progression from Incursor (Phobos) to Inceptor (Gravis), but in reality that's a bit of a reach and I'm not sure where else they would fit. Any thoughts on this?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 hellfury as a name is an upgrade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Moved to Space Marines Forums. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Maybe a flamer based unit? The flamer bit was still unaccounted for (Think someone said it didn't quite match the Invictor's Incendium flamer) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutlawSixActual Posted August 18, 2019 Author Share Posted August 18, 2019 My guess is that they are an anti-armor aggressor type - melta or something similar Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Melta in Nu-pods, for sale as soon as old-pods get close to selling out. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Lightstar Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 I'm gonna put my money on a Melta based version of the Surpressors. Mainly because they'd be cool. Rik Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splog Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Nevermind Hellfuries should be longish range. For Gravis that might be as much as 24” Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 it mentions inceptor to incursor in the same breath, so hellblaster to hellfury could be a heckuva leap. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unseen Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Please oh Emperor be melta-something. I'm sick to death of plasma. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Surely some new variant of Bolt rifle or bolt carbine? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Volkite heavies There, I said it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Furies being flying beings, sure it's not just the flying Hellblaster version, a.k.a. Inceptors with plasma? The same leap from non-flying to flying version was made a sentence later with Incursors to Inceptors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Browsing through the new Ultramarines supplement, and found this reference to "Hellfury" squads as a potential step up from "Hellblasters" - anybody heard of this? Something coming down the pipe? My conspiracy-addled brain is telling me this will be a Gravis-based plasma unit - elsewhere on the page, there is reference to progression from Incursor (Phobos) to Inceptor (Gravis), but in reality that's a bit of a reach and I'm not sure where else they would fit. Any thoughts on this?? Hah, nice catch! Considering Eliminators and Hellblasters both are Fire Support squad types using Phobos and Tacticus armour respectively and the text talks about the 9th company which is the Reserve Fire Support company, I'd definitely agree that it sounds like it's a Gravis Fire Support squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 *Excited noises*Please, please be a fast moving, hard-hitting primaris melta squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Furies being flying beings, sure it's not just the flying Hellblaster version, a.k.a. Inceptors with plasma? The same leap from non-flying to flying version was made a sentence later with Incursors to Inceptors. Absolutely postive its not that, as they're not ever mentioned as being called such ever. The different name means it'd be a different data sheet for a different unit. Plasma armament is a weapon switch for the Inceptors on the one data sheet, just as las fusils are a weapon swap on the same unit with the same name in the case of Eliminators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik Lightstar Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Furies being flying beings, sure it's not just the flying Hellblaster version, a.k.a. Inceptors with plasma? The same leap from non-flying to flying version was made a sentence later with Incursors to Inceptors. You can already give your Inceptors Plasma, have been able to for about 2 years. Rik Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 On a different note, the allusion to an existing different unit, that isn't described or has a datasheet, but is probably likely to get a release, is a little groanworthy in that we JUST got a 2nd SM codex for this same edition... and it itself is potentially heralding its own incompleteness here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Furies being flying beings, sure it's not just the flying Hellblaster version, a.k.a. Inceptors with plasma? The same leap from non-flying to flying version was made a sentence later with Incursors to Inceptors. Absolutely postive its not that, as they're not ever mentioned as being called such ever. The different name means it'd be a different data sheet for a different unit. Plasma armament is a weapon switch for the Inceptors on the one data sheet, just as las fusils are a weapon swap on the same unit with the same name in the case of Eliminators. Not to mention that Inceptors have no place in the 9th company since they are close support and belong into the 8th company as the text already mentions even. On a different note, the allusion to an existing different unit, that isn't described or has a datasheet, but is probably likely to get a release, is a little groanworthy in that we JUST got a 2nd SM codex for this same edition... and it itself is potentially heralding its own incompleteness here. That is kinda to be expected though? As long as GW doesn't declare a whole faction as "finished" there will always be new releases and those won't always come with a whole new Codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 I find it strange that they are talking about 9th company and don't mention Aggressors (At least for the Blood Angels aggressors are always shown as fire support, I assume the same for codex), I can imagine Hellfury is a name they've chucked around for flamer Aggressors and just forgot they didn't use. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramis K Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 To me furies says flight. So my guess is they'll be the alt build for suppressors. Melta seems a good bet too - I don't see space for another Plasma unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven 19 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Maybe something to do with phosphex (?) weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbienw Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 There a few things mentioned that don’t have rules (yet). Veteran inceptors in the 1st company, BT Primaris Crusader squads, and if the wording on the life of the Primaris marine is to believed, Primaris Scouts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 A Primaris Scout is just a normal scout, per Jes and Wade’s conversation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 In which case, is there hope for new scouts which don't look like they have gigantism? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357772-new-squad-type-hellfuries/#findComment-5369714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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