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@WolfLogic: I'm in with Brother Lunkhead in that I'm a CanonManTM so deviation from established lore is difficult, but ideas like yours and where you're heading with it are fresh and appealing.  I'm quite taken by the idea that Horus and his Lads weren't stupid and selfish, and some added guidance from the Emperor (IE getting off his duff and doing stuff) kind of saved the day.

 

Yet the peril from the Primordial Threat remains.  Not bad at all.

 

I was wondering about how you and Brother Lunkhead discussed the Fall of the Eldar to Chaos, even if the fall is planned or arranged.  I read the Eldar segment you posted to see how got around it, but I wasn't sure if you'd put it to bed or not.

 

If I may be so bold (Your game, your rules of course! :) ) maybe the fall to Slaanesh worked a little differently?  The Eldar performed rituals, brought the deity into being as normal, but how about playing the power of belief against the god - perhaps when he took his first breath he did indeed come to power, but over the centuries belief or support waned, to the point where the god's rivals took advantage and relegated his power.

 

You could still have Commorites as a holdover to the lingering power of She Who Thirsted, holdout devotees perhaps, or the Avatar of Khaine is somehow pressed into representing Khorne instead, or the young Eldar hotheads think: "Hey, he's close enough, and the old gods are dead or don't care anyway."

 

Then Tzeench goes: "JUsT aS PlaNNeD!"

 

Just a few thoughts I had whilst reading your work.

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I was wondering about how you and Brother Lunkhead discussed the Fall of the Eldar to Chaos, even if the fall is planned or arranged.  I read the Eldar segment you posted to see how got around it, but I wasn't sure if you'd put it to bed or not.

 

If I may be so bold (Your game, your rules of course! :smile.: ) maybe the fall to Slaanesh worked a little differently?  The Eldar performed rituals, brought the deity into being as normal, but how about playing the power of belief against the god - perhaps when he took his first breath he did indeed come to power, but over the centuries belief or support waned, to the point where the god's rivals took advantage and relegated his power.

 

You could still have Commorites as a holdover to the lingering power of She Who Thirsted, holdout devotees perhaps, or the Avatar of Khaine is somehow pressed into representing Khorne instead, or the young Eldar hotheads think: "Hey, he's close enough, and the old gods are dead or don't care anyway."

 

Then Tzeench goes: "JUsT aS PlaNNeD!"

 

Just a few thoughts I had whilst reading your work.

I'm aware I ramble a bit in my posts so to clear it up I'll try and lay my intentions for Slaanesh's birth out clearly.

 

From the start Slaanesh was a planned birth, a God who would forever love the Eldar and NEVER ignore them. 

So the Eldar society went all in on love but over time the Pleasure Cults formed and that definition of love began to change.

By the time Slaanesh was born the Empire of 10 Million Suns was in total chaos (heh) with the Pleasure Cults having infiltrated every aspect of life and gone completely mad.

For 5000 years prior to Slaanesh's birth Warp Storms engulfed the galaxy

The Warp Storms were blown away by the Birth Scream of Slaanesh, thus allowing interstellar travel once more.

As the Webway Crusade began and the Eldar were at risk of extinction Slaanesh stepped in and offered an alternative, for Slaanesh couldn't forever love the eldar and always focus on them if they were extinct. 

The Pact was made and the rest is history, more or less.

 

That's a somewhat abridged version of events but it should get my point across. If you don't find that adequate please let me know and we can do some brainstorming for when I make my second pass over the Faction Overviews after the remaining ones are finished. 

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Ah, I understand.  It looks fine to me how you've got it now, and it's very much in keeping with other themes in your continuity.  I was just tumbling ideas out of my head.

 

I look forward to your refinements as you round this universe out. :)

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Tau
First encountered by the Imperium in early M41, the Tau are a technologically advanced xenos race located on the Eastern Fringe of the galaxy. Initially marked for extermination by the Astra Militarum, the xenocide was put on hold by order of the Emperor himself.

The Emperor had seen this species in visions of the future. Almost every vision involved the xenos fighting against a ravenous hive, that blocked out the stars and consumed entire planets. It was a threat that was unknown to Him.

After centuries of sitting on the Golden Throne, the Emperor left its care to Magnus the Red and left Terra to meet with these xenos and see if they could enlighten Him as to the origins of this Great Devourer. Upon meeting with the ruling cast, the Ethereals, He learned they had never heard of this threat. Deciding to leave and return to Terra, an ominous feeling came over the Emperor. Deciding to look into the future one last time before departing, the Emperor was struck by a horrible vision.

Endless hunger suddenly flooded against His mind and
a macroscopic image of the galaxy was played before Him. A ravenous swarm noticeable against the backdrop of the cosmos was encroaching upon the Milky Way. It would soon make landfall on the Eastern Fringe.

Realizing the true scope of this threat, and the inability of the Imperium to handle another enemy on the scale of the Chaos Eldar, the Emperor met once more with the Ethereals and offered them the chance to become a protectorate of the Imperium. Seeing the difference in scale, the Ethereals accepted in fear of being exterminated by the massive Imperium.

The deal the Emperor made goes as follows; No Crusade or Expeditionary Fleet will move against the Tau provided the Tau meet the following terms: rapidly colonize and fortify the Eastern Frimge, assist Mechanicum efforts in creating Stronghold Systems along the Eastern Fringe, and finally when a Human Crusade or Expeditionary Fleet is in the Eastern Fringe the Tau will defer strategic and tactical command to them.

Such a thing was unheard of, in its ten thousand years of history, no xenos species had ever been tolerated. Primarchs, generals, and the high lords and ladies of the Imperium were all outraged. It was only when the Emperor outlined the coming threat that the dissent quieted down. Without the threat of the Eldar, the Orks, and the exotic few xenos species still left in the galaxy, the Imperium could possibly withstand the threat of the Great Devourer. With them, the great Imperium would be overwhelmed and consumed.

The Tau would spend the remainder of the 41st millennium following through with their agreement as a protectorate of the Imperium. When the Great Devourer finally made landfall on the planet Tyran, Tau and Imperial stood side by side and battled against the newly named Tyranids.

According to the Emperor the Tyranids will likely take millennia to either exterminate or repel. Until that day comes it is up to the brave men, women, and xenos to hold the line and ensure that the Imperium can focus on the homegrown threats.

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Here is the Tau Faction Overview, there's more I can add but I wanted to get something out since it had been a couple weeks and I plan to go back over all of the Faction Overviews once I'm finished to expand and refine them. Hopefully you all like it!

 

Comments and criticism is as always greatly appreciated.

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Tau

...Such a thing was unheard of, in its ten thousand years of history, no xenos species had ever been tolerated....

 

Very nice summary.

 

I've quoted the passage above since in the original continuity there was a human/xenos enclave called the Interex, who were too strong for the crusade forces, so they were hemmed in by the Imperium for dealing with later.  Do they continue to exist in your universe?

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Tau

...Such a thing was unheard of, in its ten thousand years of history, no xenos species had ever been tolerated....

 

Very nice summary.

 

I've quoted the passage above since in the original continuity there was a human/xenos enclave called the Interex, who were too strong for the crusade forces, so they were hemmed in by the Imperium for dealing with later.  Do they continue to exist in your universe?

 

Funny you should ask, I'll give you a bit of background. I started this fanfic with an idea I got from another fanfic called "Imperium Victorious. What If" In that story the Webway Crusade was a success, I thought it would be interesting to work on a setting where the crusade failed. Relating back to your question, that fanfic mentioned the Interex, I'll post the paragraph there in 

 

"The last great rogue human civilization to fall at the hands of the Imperium was the Interex. They rejected the Imperium's genocidal and xenocidal ways, eventually leading a grand coalition of other unaffiliated empires, human and otherwise, to resist Imperial aggression. The campaign lasted five centuries and the Imperium received massive losses, but in the end the alliance fell to the combined efforts of no less that 12 legions.

 

This would be the final military campaign to see such numbers for a long time."

 

 

While I'd like to avoid plagiarizing the fic since it's my inspiration and that's generally bad form, I have thought about having the first Write Up after finishing the Faction Overviews to be on a war with the Imperium against the Interex.

 

My belief is that the Imperium during the Great Crusade was largely xenocidal to the absolute. Yes there was talk about making the Laer a protectorate but that was quickly shut down by a still loyal Fulgrim and neither the Primarchs, the Emperor, nor the generals of the Imperial Army protested. Come to think of it that'd probably get them, the generals that is, removed from their command and potentially executed. Sorry I'm kinda rambling, back to the topic. 

 

With the xenocidal position of the Imperium the Interex is simply too deviant to be peacefully integrated. Further hindering their chances is the fact that they have large bat like ears according to Lexicanum, I'm not sure if that'd be called a mutant or an abhuman (not really studied up on the exact differences) but I can't see the Imperium accepting deviation from the Standard Human Genome and cavorting with xenos.

 

Tell me what you think :)

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I like it, you've obviously thought a lot about it and it works well.

 

The absolutist nature of the xenocides certainly makes the peace with Tau stand out as an aberration, giving it a lot more weight, as you planned.  Nice.

 

Please don't feel you need to apologise for rambling - that's how I solve/explore narrative problems, so happy to read it.

 

Looks good so far!

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The Tyranids 

The Tyranids is an extra-galactic hivemind of mind boggling size. So far the Tyranids have only been shown to have a single goal, to consume all biomass in a given galaxy before moving back into the intergalactic void in search of more biomass. Given the hiveminds immense size, Imperial Scholars estimate that the Tyranids have consumed hundred to thousands of galaxies before making their way to our galaxy. It is unknown what drew the Tyranids to the Milky Way galaxy, however now that they are here, they must be fought with extreme prejudice lest they consume our galaxy like they have so many others. 

 

Their arrival was foreseen by the Emperor of Mankind, but the hivemind itself was not officially encountered until they made planetfall on an Mechanicum Outpost World known as Tyran, located along the Eastern Fringe. After losing contact with the world, the Mechanicum sent a fleet, only to find the world had been transformed into a Dead World and no biomass was left anywhere on the planet. Shortly after making planetfall, the Mechanicum explorers discovered a data-codex detailing the events that had occurred months prior. 

 

The Imperium had not been idle in the time between the Emperor’s vision and the events of the Fall of Tyran. Thousands of Destroyer Fleets had been built in response to the coming threat. Armed with antimatter, melta, and rad weapons, the Destroyer Fleets were horrors reminiscent of things better left in the past of Old Night. Named Destroyer Fleets not only for their weaponry, but also for the fact that each was accompanied by a Legiones Astartes Destroyer Company, the Fleets would soon see action across the Eastern Fringe. 

 

The Tau Protectorate itself has followed the Emperor’s plan and hundreds of systems have been fortified beyond any standard Fortress world an Imperial citizen might see in the greater Imperium. The planets themselves are manned mainly by the Tau Fire Caste with limited Ethereal presence. However around a dozen key systems are home to large formations of the Astra Militarum. 

 

Combined with the immense fortification campaigns undertaken by the Tau along the Eastern Fringe, the Destoryer Fleets have slain the invading forces in droves. 

 

In the decades since the Tyranid threat has been fought, the Hive tendrils coming into our galaxy have only gotten larger. Many Imperial Scholars believe that eventually the Tyranid fleets will be too large for even the Destoryer Fleets to hold back and that further build up is necessary. 

 

What isn’t known to anyone but the highest Imperial servants is that mankind’s shipyards and orbital rings are stretched to the breaking. The constant raids of the Chaos Eldar and the massive Waaaghs of the Orks leaves the Imperium in a constant state of need for new ships. Now that this new gargantuan threat has appeared on the Imperiums borders some fear that the Imperium will be stretched too thin and that the end of mankind’s days are upon us. 

 

To those few individuals who are aware, many believe it mankinds only hope to forge an alliance with the Necrons. Based upon ancient lore it is known that they fought the Eldar and the Orks in an event known as the War in Heaven and new evidence has come to light that their long lost king has been in the void between galaxies fighting the Tyranid swarm for eons. An enemy of an enemy is your friend, right?

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Dreams Fall Apart- Military Organization

Astartes Auxilia 

Legiones Astartes 

 

Astra Militarum 

Imperialis Armada 

Planetae Militarum 

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The Astartes Auxilia was created early in the final century of the Great Crusade, as a part of the Horus Reformations. Comprised of augmented humans it is intended to act as an auxiliary force to the Legiones Astartes. Only the most elite soldiers are allowed entry into the Astartes Auxilia and they are some of the best equipped cohorts in the Imperium. 

 

The Legiones Astartes is the premier standing army of the Imperium. Founded at the end of the Unification Wars by the Emperor, they were to be essential in conquering the galaxy. By the end of the Great Crusade most legions had sub-sectors to recruit from, while the most numerous legions recruited from entire sectors. 

 

 

The Astra Militarum was created early in the final century of the Great Crusade as a part of the Horus Reformations. Based upon the exemplary Solar Auxilia style of raising formations, these baseline humans are responsible for responding to threats throughout the galaxy and garrisoning crucial worlds of the Imperium. Well equipped and disciplined, there are few threats in the galaxy these soldier can’t handle. 

 

The Imperialis Armada is the Imperiums main naval force that is dedicated to the defense of Imperial space and ferrying troops to combat zones. Perhaps the most simple of mankind’s warfaring organizations, every element is organized into one of the following roles: Patrol Fleets, Sector Fleets, Cluster Fleets, Segmentum Fleets, and Escort Fleets with only a few rare exceptions not conforming. 

 

The Planetae Militarum replaced the Imperialis Miltia as the organization responsible for garrisoning the worlds of the Imperium. Created by order of the Emperor in preparation for the Webway Crusade, the Planetae Militarum was much more standardized and well equipped than its predecessor. Comprised of baseline humans, these soldier are willing to do whatever it takes to defend their homeworld. 

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So as you may have noticed, I've come up with a title for this fic, Dreams Fall Apart, which probably sounds a lot better than 40k Alternate Timeline but since that's been the title for so long now I'll only use DFA internally. This was a quick summary of the main armed forces of the Imperium, with only the Talons of the Emperor and the Mechanicum forces being excluded. Hopefully you like these short summaries and writeups while I work on the Necrons Faction Overview. Either way, let me know what you think, comments and criticism is always welcome. I just ask that if you disagree you give me more detail on why that is.

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Dreams Fall Apart- Great Crusade

From humanity’s homeworld emerged the Emperor of Mankind, He who swept aside the terrible tyrants and psyker monstrosities that had come to rule Terra during Old Night. After the conquest of Terra and Luna in the Unification Wars, and the tentative peace with Mars through the Treaty of Olympus, He turned His gaze to the stars, and set out to unite the scattered masses of mankind with His legions of Space Marines.

 

The Great Crusade marked the end of the Age of Strife. The end to darkness, anarchy, and pain. It would be the beginning of a new golden age for mankind.

 

Unknown to most, the crusade which was to reshape the face of the galaxy had a secondary purpose, to find the lost Primarchs, transhumans of immense power and the progenitors of the Space Marines. One by one they were to be found and inducted into the Emperor’s great endeavor, willingly or otherwise. 

 

And so the march of the newly founded Imperium of Man began, only hampered by the teeming Ork hordes and the horrific Rangdans, both would be defeated despite the great cost. 

 

With the destruction of the last great Ork empire based around Ullanor, the Emperor talked with His favored son Horus Lupercal, and then made him the new Warmaster. Afterwards the Emperor returned to Terra, His son Magnus the Red and his legion, the Thousand Sons, in tow. He would not be seen again for a long time.

 

The Great Crusade continued undaunted, crushing all those who dared stand in its way, including thousands of myriad xeno species, and even rogue human civilisations, who had the temerity to oppose the Imperium’s righteous cause.

 

Several years after Ullanor, Horus encountered an advanced Human civilization known at the Interex, and although they were abhumans, Horus was taken with them. Another human civilization that has endured the horrors of Old Night, and with such different policies than the Imperium. For months Horus courted the Interex, telling them about the Emperor’s Great Work and all He had accomplished in humanities name. This peace and supposed brotherhood would not last. 

 

In secret the Interex had been horrified by the atrocities committed by the Imperium and had sent out a chosen few to warn the surrounding human and xenos civilizations of the coming Imperium. Under the guise of human trade ships, foreign leaders came and held council with the Interex government behind closed doors in parallel with the Warmasters visits, and in time a coalition was formed to resist Imperial aggression. 

 

At the grand event known as the Signing of Unity that was to join Interex and Imperium as one, the Interex struck. Using what the Imperials thought were ceremonial weapons, thousands of Astartes were slain in moments and the Imperial Army nearly left headless.

 

Horus was left reeling, never having suffered a betrayal so great. Planet after planet fell, Imperial forces too slow to react and too weak to defend against the Coalition. The Legiones Astartes were too few to truly defend a galaxy spanning empire and the Imperial Army used to having numerical superiority, were now outnumbered and outgunned. As Horus tried to coordinate the Imperium’s military to counter Coalition attacks, he noticed Imperial forces other than the esteemed Solar Auxilia and the Legiones Astartes died in droves.

 

Refusing to let this traitorous Coalition bleed the Imperium dry, the Warmaster demanded no less than a reorganization and rearmament of all of the Imperium’s military. The Imperial Army would be split into the Astartes Auxilia and the Astra Militarum, each equipped, armed, and organized similarly to the Solar Auxilia of old. These so called Horus Reformations are what many now believe saved the Imperium. 

 

After three decades of near slaughter the Imperium deployed its newly reorganized forces, Forge Worlds finally able to supply the advanced equipment in sufficient number. Quickly taking ground and surprising the Coalition with their determination and hatred, the Astra Militarum burned hundreds of worlds, many formerly Imperial, the inhabitants having been assimilated into the Coalition. 

 

For the next eighty years Imperial and Coalition forces fought across the galaxy. Almost a million Astartes died and countless Astra Militarum formations were wiped from existence, but in the end the alliance fell to the brilliant mind of the Warmaster.

 

This would be the final military campaign of the Great Crusade. After the final battle on the planet where the Coalition’s leaders had hidden, Horus spoke to his brothers and the Lord Commanders of the Astartes Auxilia and the Astra Militarum, declaring the Great Crusade completed. The Aquila flag flew from the Halo Stars to the Eastern Fringe, uniting all of mankind under one banner. The myriad xenos species that had plagued mankind during Old Night had all but been destroyed.  

 

It was a time of legend. Celebrating the end of the Great Crusade and mankind’s ascension, the Solar Triumph was held on Terra. Every Astartes legion marched the streets and millions of Astra Militarum cohorts held parades for the adoring citizens of the Imperium. Picts and videos from this event would be spread throughout the Galaxy and become some of the most famous images in human cultural memory.

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Here's another write up I have been working on, the beginning is basically ripped from the fic that inspired this fic but the Interex stuff is all mine. I'm also working on a Unification Wars and a Webway Crusade writeup that will be similar to this one and all original work. I hope you all like it and please tell me where it can be improved. Thanks a bunch for the continued views. I know many of you don't comment but I see the counter go up so at least I have that going for me.

 

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While the Imperium in this story is certainly not a good place to live, it's quite a bit better that the canon Imperium. I have been thinking of ways to show that and what better than some positions created in my 3rd century of the Great Crusade?

 

Distributed to every planet in the Imperium outside of Feral Worlds, the following three organizations were created in the final century of the Great Crusade by the order of the Council of Terra, led by Malcador the Sigilite. It was originally part of the Emperor's plan to uplift humanity back to its previous heights, but the needs of the Crusade initially put them on hold.

Departmento Compliantas 

Departmento Civitas

Adeptus Schola

 

Under the Departmento Compliantas is three positions, Compliance Adepts, Compliance Castellans, and Compliance Scholars. 

Compliance Adepts are responsible for making sure planetary governments follow through with adopting the Imperial Truth and abiding by Imperial Laws.

Compliance Castellans are in charge of training and overseeing the formation of a planets PDF and later making sure they follow the Planetae Militarum's organization and laws.

Compliance Magos are technically members of the Mechanicum that have been seconded to the Adeptus Administratum, they are responsible for making sure planets do not run afoul of the Treaty of Olympus and ensuring the transfer of all STC templates back to Mars and other major Forge Worlds. 

 

The Departmento Civitas is primarily composed of a small Administratum branch and billions of Masonic Adepts. 

Masonic Adepts are responsible for the construction and renovation of the various structures across the Imperium, from basic administration buildings to entire Hive Cities, by order of the Emperor they are to ensure that every Imperial citizen and family has a hab unit to live inside of.

 

The Adeptus Schola is an organization responsible for overseeing the creation and dispersal of the Imperial Schola, a public education system designed to educate all Imperial Citizen on basic necessities like how to read and write, as well as teaching sanctioned history, and job skills. It is the Emperor's hope that this organization will ensure humanity returns to the previous heights of the Dark Age of Technology.

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This post shows the brighter side of the Imperium that I don't feel like I've shown at all in this fic, I want there to be a light in the darkness, so the dark seems darker. Not everything is good of course but between this and the lack of Heretic Hunting the Imperium is a much nicer place to live. 

As always please give comments and criticism. Thanks for reading!

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Your Compliance functionaries are very interesting, do they take over the duties of the Adeptus Arbites or integrate with them?  They seem to be an overreaching body, such as the difference between local law enforcement and federal bodies in the United States (merely as the best known example, other countries of course have the same organisations).

I think your contrast here works well with your previously established themes.

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On 7/4/2022 at 2:51 PM, Mazer Rackham said:

Your Compliance functionaries are very interesting, do they take over the duties of the Adeptus Arbites or integrate with them?  They seem to be an overreaching body, such as the difference between local law enforcement and federal bodies in the United States (merely as the best known example, other countries of course have the same organisations).

I think your contrast here works well with your previously established themes.

Definitely integrate with them, with the laws under their purview they have absolute authority over the Arbites but I would say the Arbites are a more powerful organization overall with the Grand Provost Marshal having a seat on the Council of Terra.

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