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Yep, just like is all things if you become a pain you get ignored. They liking have a few people that email them very often and a number of crazy angry gamers. When a company makes a statement like that it is because there has been enough issues that they need to make that known. I also think it is important to set up all your feedback as information or suggestions that don't need further interaction. That would be the other side to my contact interactions with GW. The community team I think has replied to everything I have sent them and that might have been 5 emails from the start of 8th. The FAQ team has never replied but you also should not need to have a reply. Every time I have sent something in it is data, possible oops in the rules or something to consider for the future of the game and non of those really need a response. It also helps that I have done testing and feedback for another game company along with design discussions with their team. It has given me some really interesting insights into how the process works. I now have a big appreciation on how hard their job is and the complications for good game design. For as many issues 40k might have the design team has really done a great job considering the scope of the game.

Hey Sete, I hope you and your family are healthy and well. So I had sent it in to both the community team and the FAQ emails. I have never gotten a replay from the FAQ email but my math feedback has shown up in chapter approved changes. Was it impacted by me? I have no idea I was asking for them to do a second pass but they don't seem to engage the common man. The community team said they had forwarded my information to the correct people. That could be the case or it went to the trash. I'm not part of the feedback team so it is extremely unlikely my stuff is viewed with anything more then a cursory glance. I do expect there email is flooded by an extreme amount of silly requests and number of major issues but sorting them is likely a mess and things can be overlooked. Heck, I get anywhere between 15 to 30 work related emails between 7pm and 6am I honestly cringe when thinking about what a GW feedback email inbox looks like. When I get a moment I'm planning on sending a second email in along with some 9th ed suggestions for Valerian and Aleya. Purely academic as I have done amateur game design as part of a testing, feedback and design discussion team for a different smaller company and expect nothing to come of it.

As far a strong or competitive they wound need a major overhaul. These are "fun" characters and I'm ok with that as we have many options for strong HQs. Fundamentally they are not in a good spot to be a strong choice. They are nice models to use as stand-ins for other models. Valerian is a shield captain with two relics his weapon has a +1s but S6 vs S7 is truly a very minor buff as S8 is the key threshold as of 8th edition. His Golden Laurels is neat as it gives him a option of a single re-roll but it is also very limited as it is once per game. For him to standout over the other options in the codex or war of the spider either his combat level would need to go up or his Golden Laurels would become a secondary aura of some kind. Alternatively making him silly cheap would work but we are trying to force him to be a strong character. Aleya has several issues first they did not have any character template to really built and point her off of besides trying to pull from a SoB HQ. Her sword and witch hunter rule being out of date is the second issue. The Somnus Blade is a Named Relic of a mysterious origin but as of right now it is just a Great Blade (when updated). She also offers no auras for SoS and being a melee HQ she also comes with no invulnerable save. If they fix them even at the minimal level for "most" people to feel comfortable fielding them they will need to be a bargain points value. They are fluffy characters that someone messed up on the rules and or data sheet. We may not see them updated in a while as GW is likely working overtime on the major points update, FAQs and other projects leading up to 9th.

Send an email into the GW FAQ they are the people that will handle any changes. For match play Norserenda pointed out the road block. They only have faction key word of Imperium. They fall outside of all armies right now in the current rule system, yikes and oops. The following is the list of issues that needs to be addressed on that magical day known as "someday". If you want to email GW here was my list of suggestions. 1. Downloadable data sheet on the community site as it is not in print. 2. Double check and address issues of key words and war of the spider so they are playable for match play games. 3. Re-examine the 188 per model cost and that you really wanted them to cost 376 points? 4. Update Aleya's sword Somnus Blade to be inline with the standard weapon if not give her something extra as she is their only named character tied to Sister of Silence. 5. Update the Witch Hunter rule to match War of the Spider. These are fluffy characters and they don't have to be good just legal to play and ideally feel like someone took a few extra minutes to address the issues.

Well fingers cross we get something in the preview tomorrow even if it is just talking about the publication or the corrections for the new characters. I also hope this is the last preview weekend.

GW never released those chosen easy built kits as a real kit form the 6th(?) ed starter did they?

Ya this could be really interesting will we see a counterpoint CSM one off unit? Is this just a "new men" release or a start to a major reboot to the CSM non cult range? It should be good and I do hope GW can push the CSM design work. Also I vote Valdor to save us from 2020, just saying.

That would be nice but I'm really curious what GW has planned in the next wave of AC units. Will we see something shocking and unexpected or some FW models converted to plastic like we have seen before. Either way wave two will likely not be until we get a new codex or a new edition. I remember GW saying that the Talon's kits namely the AC guard boxes selling extremely well and it was one of the reasons to develop AC as a codex for 40k. Well I hope the info in this coming preview weekend has more content then what we have seen in the first two. I would love for the War of the Spider to expand our lore some as I up to speed on all the books and want more. ----- Edit 4/13 YAY we now have a Talon's logo finally done in a PA promo. :)

Now another 2 week wait for the next possible preview.

rcoon is right that it is likely to be 95% similar to all the other releases for PA. Sure we have some standouts with Mars getting more models but these were likely already made years ago and just slotted for a release that would fit. Also all of these rules in PA are likely made a while back and don't take into account at least the last 6 months to a year of the active game play. We should see a leak today in theory about tomorrow and we do have a chance to GW to preview something or us if we are getting something new. Also stay safe people and get some painting done if you are under quarantine. :)

Sadly the design team really has not done a good job balancing tougher or more resultant units for many additions between points or mechanics. I would love to see Auramite is a -1 to wound rolls or a -1 one damage to a minimum of 1. I think bigger changes would be in a new codex vs PA. I do hope for we see GW try out some interesting options for PA as a testing ground for the next codex. Also if I could like your full post twice I would. :)

A lot of the PA releases have a tied in box release. Does anyone recall a three way box in the past? If we don't get new units what do you think is likely to be in the box? Maybe 1 guard unit, 1 SoS unit and Valerian and Aleya plus a rhino as GW likely has overstock on those. DG maybe some quick build kits to be cheap.

The production of those book are outstanding, my personal favorite is Tamurkhan for WFB as it is work of art. That really should be the option for a CE edition of a codex vs a cover. I'm not really sure what the future of FW is going to be with GW taking over the rules slowly. @Noserenda I really think the reasoning for SoS being Index elites is that they are an after thought and protecting from allies abuse. From what we saw with the Index they did a lot of work but could have easily used 3 times as long to test and tune the armies more.

The lore from "The Regent's Shadow" is the most current lore for SoS until PA hits and they have SoS at a very small number pulled in all different directions. The lore changes now vs even 5 years ago where we had a stagnant statuesque. This will make it harder to keep up with the lore as we have lore sites that could easily be out of date. Going back to what Torch said having a cleared up and well written rule set for Valerian and Aleya would be nice. Also getting a real HQ for SoS would be very helpful even if it is Aleya.

It is a shame we lost Geoff as he really was an awesome gamer and the AC liaison or whatever the term GW uses for the official feedback person for that particular faction from outside of the company. That is a tough thankless job that he had taken on.