Archaeinox

That'd be nice. If part of their thing is free overwatch, I won't be doing the claws. but that'd look so sick.

Been trying to post all day from work but had no signal. If EC dont hit for Preorder Sunday Announcement there's a prob GW is dealing with.

It reminds me of Unreal Tournament combat robots. Rigid in pose but protocols adjust movement style, making full use of capabilities if needed

It's likely they will give us more insight into the design ideas during the week before their release, like they did for Fulgrim and the E.C. recently. Can't wait

*cracks knuckles* Well. I think knowing they are on 40mm bases instead of 60mm tempers my perception of their capabilities and also gives us a glimpse of what we might keep. For example, it would fill a role of a small robot bodyguard for a sorcerer to attach to, since it is at least Unit Size: 2 Models. As far as the glimpse, theres no way it provides fire support equal to an Obliterator unit (which are on 50mm bases, T7, 5 Wounds) so Sekhetar might not serve as replacement fire support if they take Forgefiends, Vindis and Preds from us. I think this role is what all of us expected, on a 60mm base platform. Even a unit of 4 on 50mm would have been strange. Would've been a unit of 3 to 6, or 5. As for rules, based on the reveal show alone, we are potentially looking at a massive amount of rules, strange for a minimum size 2 unit on 40mm bases: 1. Wound/hit interception for sorcerers under their protection 2. Varied armaments to include smol underslung flamers on fists, heavy warpflamers, melta gun (as per stream, but this could be a presenter mistake), some energy weapon with a copper colored battery pack, hellfyre missiles. 3. Concealing/protective wardings to allow for lying await in ambush. Deep Strike? Lone Op? 4. Overwatch for 0cp. Lets assume you want to. Ok, so 2 of them Overwatch with their heavy warpflamers... is this really worth doing if you can plan to set up 10 Rubric Marines in a similar Overwatch threat position? As for the unit design, I'm a huge fan. The different paint jobs we inevitably give them instead will change their overall feel dramatically. I like the concept. I will say that I think people have provided many good reasons for thinking they are a "miss" that I understand. Final thought, I am pretty focused on the fact that these are on 40mm bases. I think this characteristic will be the baseline to which all my opinions of this unit are connected, until we see rules. -Arch

this got me

Spawn are on 50mm which is why I think these 2 new models being on 40mm is a big indicator that there's a lot we don't see coming our way. If these are intended to be tough, but dont look tough (Oblits are T7 and with W5 on 50mm bases), it makes sense that they might intercept hits on a sorcerer as described in the reveal live stream. That was oddly specific. Can't wait to see what happens I have a ton of extra sorcerers that are included in my lists but often don't have Rubric Marines to join. If they can join terminators (Lord Kakophonis is the recent precedent?), or Sek'hetar, that's perfect.

I think being on 40mm bases, in unit size 2, can lead us to believe that a sorcerer can attach to them. There's not many precedents for a 40mm unit size 2 out there. I think they're about to turn TSons index on its head when this book drops.

I love the robots. I'm sorry that they aren't what many TS players want. I really can't wait to get them

haha i'm surprised not. to be honest i was expecting a robot silhouette on Monday lol

That's very Pacific of him

The plastic one on WarCom today reminds me of an RTS level editor where you hold and drag the topography upwards. It seems lazy and uninspired compared to some of their other bases (Deathleaper, and the Tomb Kings Necrolith Bone Dragon). A friend of mine hopes we will get a tyranid shrike warrior KT. That'd be cool.

Hoping to wake up to a silhouette of a TSons automaton.

That makes sense to have a detachment with additional focus on those robots. Maybe an enhancement for a character to make nearby Automatons more potent than they might be in another detachment. Those sorts of things are great, because other detachments can still take the robots as an option anyway if they wish. Holding out hope for an Exiles sort of detachment. Something that provides exclusive benefits to all the psykers in the detachment, but no real benefit to Magnus (although you can still include him)

I had another thought. The reason these robots are being introduced is they were a way to counter all the anti-psyker shenanigans happening in the current 40k hot zones. If that's the case, they won't be psychic at all. This is probably another reason Cabal Rituals might change. Why introduce a new plastic kit to us if we are discouraged from taking it since they aren't psykers at all. It might be nice to have something like that to twist the army's rituals on its head. This will open up more varied lists, possibly.