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So what you're saying is the bolter guys go back to being ablative wounds for a special/heavy weapon? That's fine, but I don't think they've solved the usefulness of a bolter at all, or they'd be worth taking under their own steam.

I think I might go for Mörkahead A friend of mine shot a Hive Tyrant with grots back in 5th edition. Since then we have always approached them warily.

Hmm... it's kind of an "outpriced" thing, but more than GW prices for me the past few years, it's more a change in overall life stage. Some of it was definitely a change in discretionary spending when I got into historical fencing (sparring-safe longsword recreations are not cheap). But more than that was meeting somebody at my salle - to now in the final stages of wedding planning and building a household together. My hobby spending - and particularly, my hobby time - has just taken a sharp pivot to other priorities. Sometimes, life just happens...

GW doesn't ship individual orders to the USA anymore- they have a distribution warehouse in TN that gets large shipments that are then sent out to individual buyers when ordered online. Unfortunately that means that those of us in the USA can only order what is in stock in the TN warehouse, which isn't the same as what they have in the UK where their production facilities are. SoS are a pretty small portion of the player base, so restocks from the UK are going to be few and far between compared to more popular factions' kits. A lot of this is to streamline their logistics process- it is cheaper to use water-based freight shipping than air freight and ships are slower than airplanes. So, they aren't able to be as quick in shipping out replacement products using ships as they would using planes. This means that every time something that is less purchased goes out of stock in the TN warehouse they are probably running months behind on replacing it because they won't have any replacements in the pipeline already. It does suck, but really the best option is to get someone in the UK to ship to you. You may still get hit with tariff fees though.

Aah the grots. Lovely models. Sadly reminds me of losing 5 terminators to grot fire in one round. " Ah 5 armour saves, easy: 5 ones...."

Before Guilliman had a nap, he composed a Chapter structure that was flexible enough to be used across the Galaxy. He thought big, he knew that in the vast distance of space there was no guarantee a Marine squad would have dedicated anti tank weapons units attached and available. He left knowing that a single Lascannon could make all the difference. But when he awoke, the Rift had warped reality, now tanks have wounds like infantry, single Lascannons are a waste of time and the Galaxy had shrunk to only 4' ×5' . So he adjusted his scope and Chapter structure from dealing with the entire Galaxy down to the size of a tabletop to suit the new reality. He realized specialist units perform better in game than flexible ones, he no longer thought about the big picture, and focused on gameplay. There's a not very hidden message there. Just my 2c.

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That is literally how tanks work though; generally speaking, a hit on a tank is very "binary" in that it'll either render the tank inoperable or bounce off harmlessly. I'd argue the old vehicle damage chart was actually quite granular in that you had a chance at destroying a weapon or immobilizing it without knocking it out completely, which certainly CAN happen IRL but is far less likely. I do think walkers work better as monstrous creature parallels (even if I think they should have a distinction from actual monstrous creatures, so immune to poison but take double wounds from anti-tank weapons for instance) but actual vehicles should behave like vehicles. Giving them "healthbars" is one of the many ways 40K has become overly abstracted and lost its warfare-simulation roots.

Anyone else want to paint Motorhead on his shirt

The void isn’t in the rules. It’s in our hearts.

Options are still limited for Primaris even when they show up in Skirmish games like Kill Team when compared to their Heretic counterparts. I don't think a heavy bolter should be tied to the hip to extra armour plates of Gravis armour for example. I built both of my Imperial and Seccessionist kill teams using Chaos rules because they actually have gear from the old Codex organization for Tactical and Assault squads. I guess Primaris Assault Marines are like the guy from Kung Pow. "We have purposely trained him wrong, as a joke"

I mean,... the current grots box is not really any better -3 of them are single piece models. I still happily have a few boxes of them though that was when they were sub £10 a box. I wonder how well spare heads from the current grots will fit these new ones for added variety.

Dice rolling, obv

Yeah, the power of the grot - in 3rd/4th, I had (on the receiving end both times) 3 grots kill a lictor in melee and 10 kill 6 seraphim in shooting. Its stories like those that are one of the reasons I think GW's move away from variance in the last few editions is a mistake. Same reason why exploding vehicles are fun, though often in a hair tearing way. Though, to make this at least arguably on topic, I'm not sure if giving a grot a grenade is such a good idea... and I just realized B+C really needs an exploding emoji...

Hagga takes Flesh Render, Parry+10 and Survival, each at 200xp.

So a few months ago I posted a topic where I wanted to ask where about acquiring an upgrade set for the Sisters of Silence that is never in stock. Well, I’m here today because I’ve learned something that makes me angry. Because it turns out the upgrade set I wanted is “out of stock”… in America. Turns out that this “online only” product is in stock… but ONLY in the UK! Not only that, but SEVERAL Sisters of Silence products that are “out of stock” in the US are “in stock” in the UK & I’m willing to bet that MANY MORE sets that are labeled “out of stock” are also only available in the UK! :cuss:!? Granted, I know that GW is a UK based company, but it still vexes me that a product which can only be ordered online is not available to US customers! At this point, it seems like my only option is to have someone in the UK buy the set & ship it to me! This really sucks! Maybe I’m just raging, but with the number of companies adopting so many anti-consumer policies, it really ticks me off! Anyway, thank you for reading my rant & as always, God bless.

Hagga: Hagga frowned, then nodded. It was just as he had thought. He sighed. “I thought as much when I saw him boasting atop the bastion. He’s a young warrior, overeager for glory. He went against the wishes of our group, and shall face a penance for it… but…” Hagga looked upwards. “… you have already confessed this betrayal, and accepted whatever punishment your comrades choose… haven't you, brother?” There was a fiery burst and a roar of thrust from the shadows above. Ukalegon dropped from the container stacks, landing lightly on one knee to the Magos’ left. The Lamenter stood and nodded his agreement, glaring icily at the priest. “You know,” Hagga continued softly, “that I am a believer in giving second chances, Magos. I believed it for you. I believe it now for Ukalegon. My concern, though, is how you uncovered this ‘secret’ information?” He paused for a moment, then continued before Kraggan could answer. “Don't worry, Magos. We already know.” Obadiah moved forwards on the priest's right side, his sudden presence somehow even more surprising than Ukalegon's flaming descent. From Hagga's right, Varne stumped grimly forward to join the little group. From his left, Acchiersum Mourn appeared from between more of the storage crates, looking with lazy malevolence at his rival. “You see lad, Brother Obadiah here was picking up all kinds of odd signals from his comm leech whenever he was around Brother Ukalegon. Obadiah asked Magos Xerxes to quietly check out Ukalegon's wargear, who found that his jump pack had been… tampered with. Again. By you. He was kind enough to remove your little listening program a few hours ago, without alerting you.” Before Kraggan could react, Ukalegon and Obadiah reached out to seize his arms. Mourn stepped forward and joined them, and together they began to force the tech-adept to his knees. Few mortals could struggle against the strength of even one Astartes. For a certainty, no-one could match three.

The guardians are done. They were started by my youngest daughter who picked the colours and applied the base coats and a dry brush on the pink for highlights. I just did the finishing touches

Not to mention that last time I checked, there were no augmented power armoured super soldiers or green fungus ape men in WW2 (I am sure the History Channel will be trying to tell us otherwise soon...) yet the more grounded historical game has more options...

Oh hey look they're done, it's a speedy miracle The Rep Ex i MAY be able to finish in OT, we'll see

Xerxes: The short range vox to the scattered servitors faded and died as the vessel returned to the Razor, each set to burn away any traces of his work but not all as soon as others. It would only take one to find their way to any of the automated freighters to throw its next passage off course scattering that which could not be taken against the slim odds that it might survive to be recovered. The arrival of the Imperial vessel may be co-incidence but Xerxes had no trust of such things. The Rogue Trader, talk of the inquisition, astropathic signals no doubt sent of fires and witches and soon enough of this attack, Huron, and this legion of which the heretek had spoken. Sooner or later a storm would come and this would be no safe harbour.

No, that's his Nephew. He's also got a third-cousin called Hans Kneads Your Bumps and Daisies.

Ultimately I think that for the modern 40K with the amount of units it has, the focused unit design where the unit has one or at most two different weapon profiles is better. Resolving all the different individual weapons just slows things down and achieves very little. So basically the eldar and marines have this right. It is just ironic that at the same time the over interpretation of "no model no rules" has lead to many units of various armies being littered with a bunch of different weapons because the box comes with just one of each and no points means you'll take them as they're free. It is just silly how for example the kabalites or the skitarii have this crazy collection of different weapons in every bloody troop unit. That is not good design.

Kraggan He met up with Hagga in the dark hold. "The need for secrecy is to mitigate misunderstanding. Truth needs to be imparted when it is pertinent to be told and when it's telling would not to harm the mission. It involves Ukalegon and his actions that he chose to do." He moved about in the space that they were in, until he was happy that the dimensions were right. He was careful to always keep an eye on Hagga, all of his movements were open and in full view of the Heart-eater. Carefully he brought out of a pocket of his cloak, a small pict-caster. "The footage that you are about to see was recorded on the Bulk Hauler, when we were on the Star Hawk. Do not be alarmed when you work out how you are seeing it and who is the narrator." As he turned on the device, it broadcast a hologram of the bridge of the Bulk Hauler and Andus Ressokov sat in the pilots chair at the controls. The view moved towards the pilot and loomed over him, as Ukalegon unsheathed a combat knife. “Forgive me, Andus Ressokov, that I will not be joining you at your terminus. And forgive me that I must ask you to defer your revenge upon the Arbites…” Ukalegon’s razor made short work of Rossokov, who gurgled blood and died quickly. "But it is a revenge merely deferred and not denied. I will be your implement of their destruction. The Provost Marshall must see his domain reduced to ruins, and all he cherishes laid to waste before succumbing himself. This vessel, your tomb, has a new target..." Ukalegon leaned over the pilot’s controls and altered its trajectory to miss the tower entirely, though its landing would still cause apocalyptic damage and mayhem. "Forgive me, Hagga." As Ukalegon turned, the footage faded to grey and the hologram stopped. "The truth of what occurred is now told."

Even more if someone does a shirtless cavalry conversion.

Moving us on a bit, since there's not really much more to be done. Rewards and You: All Players receive; XP +500xp Infamy +17 Inf Corruption +4 CP All Players who Completed Tertiaries: +2 Infamy Discretionary award: GM (D5) CP's for being terrible people: Varne + 3 CP Obadiah +3 CP Ukalegon +4 CP Kraggan +1 CP Crux'as +1 CP (for all that lying) Hagga +3 CP Alignment Shifts: Kraggan: Indulged in duplicity! -1 Khorne Alignment Indulged in Tzeentchian affairs! -1 Khorne Alignment Crux'as: Dedicated victories to Patron +1 Tzeentch Align Obadiah: Murdered Psykers +1 Khorne Align Murdered the Faithful/Pure +1 Slaanesh Align Varne: Picked nose +1 Nurgle Align Hagga: Faced guns with sword +1 Khorne Align, also -1 Intelligence Mourn: Obtained spectacular cloak and leopard print Y-Fronts +1 Slaanesh Align. Mithra: Healthy diet, +1 Toughness, but farts a lot -1 Fel. ++++++++++ Screaming and pointless pleading below. You can consider yourselves to have been extracted to the Razor and are now underway. Go ahead and finish any inter-party interactions, and once that is done, we wrap Part Two and the game drops into recess.

Looks a bit like Putin

Might just be the grodiest entry on r/airplaneears

This has changed with the series, my answers would be different if it was based solely on the old Index Astartes articles Primarch duel - Khan v Mortarion Hero centric - Istvaan 3 last stand of Tarvitz et al Glorious defeat/pyrrhic victory - Dantioch and the siege in Iron within Small scale - Dwell and the White Scar's kill teams Skirmish scale - battle of Aramtura Massive battle - Siege itself

Yes and no. They are thin enough that there's not much of the 'interlocking squiggles' you sometimes get for marine torsos or legs, but the sprue layout on the Voidscarred at least is a nightmare because it's 3 sprues to cram in all the extra weapons and specialist kit, and very little of it is sequential on the sprue. Everything fits clean once you put it all together tho. Then of course there's ALL THE CAPES, which complicates the painting, plus the factor of seemingly endless streamers and strapping and filigree, to say nothing of all the gems. If you're a weirdo like me you can't help but do the fabrics and capes mostly in the off colour which looks good in the end, but does add time. The skyreavers are thankfully simpler because of limited options and smaller number per kit (5), plus no capes! There's little interference between the jet packs and the back of the minis, and only 40% of them ever cover their chest with guns, so that kit is much faster and cleaner overall than the base infantry, strangely. The flipside of the complexity on corsairs is that you get out what you put in. If you take the time and effort, they really reward you at the end of the day. The new vyper was good, but I'm glad I did it in sub-assemblies because otherwise you'd never be able to paint all the way around almost any part of it satisfactorily. It was feeling like it was about to become a bit of a slog, but at that point I just finished the build and spent a couple hours refining some of the most important parts, and it was rather suddenly 'done enough'. Kharseth is a pretty conventional character mini, but with a cape over a cloak there are some tough parts, plus on the back there's another instance of 'a bunch of streamers dangerously close to the cape' which takes a deft hand. Average rating 7/10 'nice to work with'; voidscarred 6/10, vyper 7/10, skyreavers 8/10. Other than the base infantry, but those are from 2023, so basically yes. Cheers, The Good Doctor.

Exactly! That's the ones.

Primarch Duel - Ferrus Vs Fulgrim (with an honourable mention for Jaghatai Vs Mortarion) Herocentric - The Saturnine ambush. Lots of senior characters on both sides in that battle and several of them are even killed in it. Titans - Beta Garmon Glorious Defeat - Koriel Zeth using the self destruct of her city and taking down some enemy titans. Small scale - The execution force sent to assassinate Horus (if that counts as a battle) Skirmish scale - There’s a lot that fit this for me. Some of Shadrak Meduson’s fights, the Calth campaign, the flight of the Eisenstein and some of the actions involving the Knights Errant so I can’t really pick one.

Primarch Duel, it has to be Ferrus and Fulgrim. Legacy of the Great Crusade vs the Potent of Chaos to Come. No pulling blows, no holding back just one brother unleashing his anger and rage against the one he loved and trusted the most who thought he was weak enough to turn against the Imperium and the Emperor. And it all ends in the first visable Primarch death, and a sign of things to come. Titans has to be Beta Gammon, same for Glorious defeat/pyrrhic victory. Nothing held back, ala Ferrus and Fulgrim, Titans fighting in line against their own kind with vulnerable Astartes and even more vulnerable Imperial Army struggling to put up some sort of fight under the feet of the gods of war. In the end, it's both a Glorius Defeat and Pyrrhic Victory for both sides. The Loyalists claim both as they not only lost the system, the key and easiest way to get to the Sol System, as well as a large number of Titans, Astartes and Army forces which all could have helped and held the line even for a few more hours at Terra. But they also claimed a vast number of the Traitor's Titans as well as their own Astartes and Army elements and forced the Traitors to fight a war on the Loyalist's terms. Sure they were defensive, but they forced the Traitor's hands in having to lay siege to the worlds within the system. Both Small and Skirmish has to be the Underground War at Calth. The smaller tunnels didn't have room for large tanks and ranks of astartes, not only that but neither side had much access to these after the Battle for Calth and had to use their materials and forces wisely. It's a WW1 analogue except neither side has easy access to recruits or fresh forces, so the stalemate continues and smaller forces break open the gaps for slightly larger ones to push through. Massive Battle, Siege of Terran not included? Tallarn or Isstvan V. Both are big names within the Horus Heresy and are probably as well known as the Heresy itself and their names speak for themselves really.

Field artillery kit-bash.

More than being priced-out by GW, I have been timed-out by life. I don't have as much time to build, paint and play as I used to have when I was youger, so I figured out I could stop buying things for a while (except for some single models that I absolutely wanted in my collecton) and keep on working on that pile of shame that I have accumulated. It's been two years now, and it is going great. I have even improved as a painter as I am mostly working on single models that won't be used for playing, but just for display.

Really interested to see how this project turns out

Some cracking lootin' going on in here :) My most recent looting is a carnifex, bunch of ad mech bots [dread] and a sentinel as per below. My fave is my looted Ironclad - Da Flying Forktress, Badrukk's Personal wagon for him and his Flash Gitz I've looted a goliath, a rhino and a dunerider for trukks - the former two are paint in progress. The landspeeder I'd looted as a shokkjump dragsta - paint in progress. Ridgerunner - boomdakka snazzwagon Impulsor - not pictured - Squigbuggy Needless to say, I love Death Skulls! Da Flying Forktress :) Da Fl

I say options are cooler than what you call "good" design. Minmaxing is boring. The focus on tournament play and the restriction of wargear options that has ensued are anathema to the creative spirit of the game. I don't care that it's not efficient to have a guy with a meltagun in a squad otherwise filled with bolter wielding marines. "It's just silly that your army's units have access to a varied selection of weapons. That should be taken away so they all have the same gun, because that's better design."