Wolf Guard Dan

I agree that strength 4 is bad for Zerkers. So the nails only give you movement buffs unless you’re in a specific detachment. Eh.

The kit detail is vastly superior to our last refresh. Hairdos and all. I really like the design approach between blood claws and grey hunters. It reflects what I did with my units. Blood claws I made with the 3rd edition kits- less flash and detail on their armor. Grey Hunters are the 5th edition kit- plenty of flash. I do think the new grey hunters could do with a little more flash on their armor but I appreciate the time saved not having to paint it. Say what you will about Wulfen but I would be interested to see what they would design with the modern tech. At least no weird feet.

In fairness to the heavy Intercessors they don’t have the damage output of a plague marine. I’m not sure any battleline troop does. 3 heavy melee weapons per five or 4 special ranged weapons per five.

GW has to understand how culturally important Bjorn is to the space wolf players. They must keep Bjorn alive until Leman Russ is back to die in battle alongside his primarch. If no Bjorn rules it increases the change of Leman Russ being back by end of 10th/early 11th. If Bjorn gets a new model we will be waiting awhile on Russ.

This will be a lot of fun. I’m curious how picking a new target will work. Do we pick a new target when the head taker unit kills the target or just when the target dies? Mastering that mechanic will be important. I was a little worried about grey hunters and blood claws on the News thread. But I think the movers and shakers will be the head takers and rumored terminators.

I'm interested how the minimum of ten and lack of special weapons will impact how these units play. Will have to see how rules and points shake out. The lack of heavy melee weapons has me worried. OC3 Grey Hunters are cool but have to kill stuff to take and keep objectives.

Has anyone used the current SW dread kit to enhance their primaris dreads? I never got the SW dread because I just take metal Bjorn out of the sock when I need him for wargaming. Do the bits from SW dread look small on primaris dreads?

Blood claws too. Man, just when the young fellas started to shoot straight too. I’m not surprised either unit are losing their special weapons. It’s unfortunate though.

I don’t think we will get a Wulfen dreadnought. The brutalis data sheet is basically the same. I think your list is solid except that so it leaves 6 from the bottom. Both fliers, TWC, Ulric, iron priest, maybe Krom. I get the feeling we lose Bjorn for the time being.

I really hope we keep Bjorn in the codex but there’s a good chance he doesn’t make the trip to Armageddon. Hope they don’t kill him offscreen and we get a model down the line. A brutalis/ Wulfen dread would be the easiest thing to put in the codex. Edit; then again maybe not. The data sheet on those two is similar already

Let me use my keen senses. Can't tell for certain but grey hunters looks like 10. 1 pack leader and a single digit amount of grey hunters. So probably 1+9, Blood claws look like 1 pack leader and 9-XX (a double digit number). I expect it's 1 + 9-14. Edit: could be 9-19 Blood claws

I spent some time squinting at that and couldn't tell. They said 3 shots on the stream. But it could be 2 shots Rapid Fire 1. On the stream did they say grey hunters or blood claws were reroll 1's to wound/ reroll all wound on objective? The grey hunter data sheet looks like it has that but I thought they said the blood claws had that on the stream. Movement 7 will be interesting. Does this mean movement 6 terminators? I could get down with that.

Ghaz would be upset if he didn't get a crack at Angron. Would be a nice setting for Leman Russ to return. Or Yarrick. Or both... ohh that reveal video would be something.

They did describe his role correctly. I wonder if he will get rules for healing balms.

The Rout returns to Armageddon. The models look amazing. Worth the wait. I'm excited for the Logan reveal. I hope the Wolves box isn't sold out before I can get one. @StrangerOrders I feel your pain. Space Wolves and World Eaters at the same time for me.

Value-wise the current box is more valuable but it’s pretty close. If anyone is thinking about picking up a box of either you should just consider what models you want more. I’m surprised it wouldn’t include the new rumored Beserker surgeon. However if it’s in the combat patrol they may not sell as many individual kits. I suspect the limited edition box will have the Beserker surgeon, 20 Zerkers, 2 Eightbound.

I too heard/read the rumor of potential new Intercessors with old marks of armor incorporated. I think it was later said it probably wasn’t happening. Could just be Mandela Effect. I’ll look around after I’m done watching Shazaam, featuring sinbad…

That’s what I assumed it would be when Jervis initially talked about primaris designed in like 2017. But that was a long time ago. I’m disappointed that we waited so long and it may just be an extra sprue for our battle-line infantry units that have defined the faction for so long. At least all the intercessor models I’ve collected will still have a use. Unless the rules are meh. I expect blood claws to be the same or maybe one additional attack. I expect grey hunters to be the same but the AP buff on their ranged weapons. So in short: grey hunters less good than their vanilla counterpart. These are just rumors but I’m glad to start getting some clarity on what to expect.

Infernus marine meta incoming :) I wouldn’t mind to see those guys in a list. I still have 20 on the sprue. Interesting rumor about the vindicator. Hopefully if they lower the shots they increase the damage to make it less good at killing many models but remain good at killing big models.

It's confirmed that Slaanesh demons will be in the EC Codex. It is still possible demons may have their own book later. Just like in the Aeldari book they listed the Ynnari Dark Eldar. Dark Eldar will still get their own book. "EC Daemonettes", "WE Bloodletters", "DG plaguebearers", etc. in their respective cult marines codexes may still result in a Daemons book at a later date. Or they could be squatted. If named Slaanesh demon characters are not in the EC book I bet they get their own dex. They may also kick the can down the road until 11th edition.

I agree with your thoughts. It hard to commit to working on my wolves because there’s no clarity on how things might change. I do expect it to change. Models that are probably safe to work on are Wulfen, Ragnar, hounds of Morkai, any marine unit that doesn’t have a comparable SW unit ie Aggressors, and vehicles. If you’re into converting it might be safe to work on Intercessors/ assault Intercessors but I expect we might not get access to those units if we get grey hunters and blood claws. Stinks being in limbo. I hope when 11th comes out it is backwards compatible with 10th edition codexes.

Excellent sculpt. I may pick one up eventually when 40k wolves get their refresh. Ahh yes. That settles it then. Rune Priests don't use the warp, just carry Fenris's goodwill across the stars :p ;)

Clicking any article links doesn't work for me either but I can use the dropdown to go to the warhammer store.

I’m hopeful that because we are last that we are getting the biggest update. I do worry for our finecast characters. Some of them do have novels. Maybe that will be their saving grace. I’d be stunned if Njal didn’t get an update. Less so if we saw Lukas sent to legends. I’d really like to keep Lukas. I enjoyed his novel.

These great blood angels reveals make me excited for our eventual refresh. Although that new Coteaz haunts my dreams. Blood angels have gotten more character kits than I expected. Leaves hope for our characters. GW may decide between our named characters and our priest characters. We do have a lot of kits to refresh into primaris range.