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In 7th Edition I ran squads of 10 Berserkers in Rhinos, in 8th Edition I ran squads of 8 Berserkers in Rhinos (often with a buffing character), in 9th Edition I've run both but still lean towards 8 (though never with buffing characters thanks to how precious HQ slots are now). One thing I've never tried but see put forth quite often by B&C fraters whom I perceive to play in more competitive metas then me put two squads of 5 in each Rhino for more power weapons and presumably greater board control / movement versatility. I would like to gauge how popular each squad size is in and specific reasoning / case studies as to why people go with the unit size they do. I generally run with 8 because it is fluffy, and bumping my 2-3 squads to 10 is basically the difference between having another Daemon Engine or not or having extra ablative wounds on a Melta bike squad, etc. If I have extra points leftover I may use them to buff a squad from 8 to 10, but I have never really noticed a difference performance wise. In 8th I also used to run them with a Chaos Lord (solidifying 8 instead of 10). I always found Chaos Lords more useful then the more popular Exalted Champions because I could more safely have them run off and do their own thing thanks to the Invulnerable Save (the To Hit aura seemed to be equally as effective as the To Wound aura as well). In fact, I rarely ever kept the Chaos Lord in cohesion with the Berserkers for long after they jumped out of the Rhino for that reason. Even still, with that said, I haven't run into a situation yet in 9th where my Berserkers jumped out of the Rhino and I found myself wishing I could split them in half to go into two different directions largely due to Maelstrom no longer being a thing (or at least not a thing in my area, I don't know if people elsewhere still play Maelstrom). For those who don't know, Maelstrom was an old format where your objectives were randomly generated at the beginning of your turn so you had to adapt your strategy on the fly unlike the largely static objectives of 9th. I look forward to your thoughts and stories.

With the lockdown nearing its end in my part of the world I've been looking at playing a more competitive World Eaters list in the interest of participating in some tourneys, while still keeping a core of Berserkers. I've never participated in the competitive side of the hobby but with Faith and Fury I don't know that there has been a better time in a long time for a World Eater player to start. I've been doing some research and theorycrafting and I would like some input. First off, I see a lot of placing Chaos lists running three Arch Lord Discordants (though never in a Khorne / WE list). I tend to run two to three Maulerfiends and ALDs are at least as good at killing vehicles and very efficient at killing most other things as well. They also don't cost much more. So no brainer right? Drop the 'Fiends and buy two more ALDs to fill out a Supreme Command Detachment? In competitive play how reliant are ALD's on Magic? If you were to make a competitive as possible World Eaters list would you run ALDs? Would you run Daemon Engines at all? I've always run Berserkers and so long as I am playing CSM I will make room for them in my lists. I tend to run squads of eight in Rhinos with Powerfists and Chainaxes. In competitive Chaos lists when it comes to melee I see a lot of blobs; Possessed and Plaguebearers in particular. I also see a lot of MSUs of Warp Talons. I don't thing running Berserker bombs would be all that fun (running Possessed bombs doesn't look like fun). I could run MSUs of Berserkers in Rhinos for efficiency but I wonder how much work they can do after eating overwatch, on top of that I imagine it would be very hard for MSUs of Berserkers to hide from shooting by wrapping enemy units even with our new six inch consolidation. How would you run your Berserkers? Should I be concerned at all about being able to hide from shooting by wrapping enemy units? If you were to make a competitive as possible World Eaters list while still having it be a World Eaters list what would you include?