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++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Imperial Fists) [104 PL, 10CP, 2,000pts] ++ + Configuration + **Chapter Selection**: Imperial Fists + Stratagems + Gift of the Phalanx [-1CP] + HQ + Captain in Gravis Armour [6 PL, -1CP, 115pts]: Hand of Dorn, Stratagem: Sentinel of Terra, Stubborn Heroism, The Eye of Hypnoth, Warlord Primaris Chaplain [5 PL, 85pts]: 5. Recitation of Focus, Litany of Hate + Troops + Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 210pts]: Auto Bolt Rifle . 9x Intercessor: 9x Bolt pistol, 9x Frag & Krak grenades . Intercessor Sergeant: Fist of Terra, Power fist Tactical Squad [5 PL, 105pts] . 3x Space Marine: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades . Space Marine Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Boltgun, Power sword . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Heavy bolter Tactical Squad [5 PL, 105pts] . 3x Space Marine: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades . Space Marine Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Power sword . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Heavy bolter + Elites + Bladeguard Ancient [5 PL, 85pts] Bladeguard Veteran Squad [5 PL, 105pts] . 2x Bladeguard Veteran: 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 2x Master-crafted power sword, 2x Storm Shield . Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant: Heavy Bolt Pistol Sternguard Veteran Squad [12 PL, 200pts] 9x Sternguard Veteran: Special issue boltgun . Sternguard Veteran Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Special issue boltgun Venerable Dreadnought [8 PL, 155pts]: Missile launcher, Twin lascannon Venerable Dreadnought [8 PL, 155pts]: Twin lascannon Venerable Dreadnought [8 PL, 145pts]: Multi-melta . Dreadnought combat weapon w/Heavy Flamer + Fast Attack + Inceptor Squad [7 PL, 135pts]: Assault bolter x2, 2x Inceptor, Inceptor Sergeant Suppressor Squad [5 PL, 100pts] . 2x Suppressor: 2x Accelerator autocannon, 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Grav-chute + Heavy Support + Eradicator Squad [7 PL, 135pts]: Melta rifle . 2x Eradicator: 2x Bolt pistol . Eradicator Sgt Hellblaster Squad [8 PL, 165pts]: Assault Plasma Incinerator [++ Total: [104 PL, 10CP, 2,000pts] ++ I made this list using the models I have available and was hoping to get some c&c. I own imdomitus, dark crusade, and the vanguard box set plus a few dozen tactical marines with various weapons, a first born apothecary, 2 Terminator captains, a first born champion, 3 venerable dreads, a drop pod, a rhino, and a razorback.

++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Imperial Fists) ++ + Configuration + **Chapter Selection**: Imperial Fists Detachment CP + Stratagems + Relics of the Chapter: 2x Number of Extra Relics + HQ + Primaris Chaplain: 2. Catechism of Fire, 5. Recitation of Focus, Chapter Command: Master of Sanctity, Litany of Hate, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter, Wise Orator Primaris Chapter Master: Chapter Command: Chapter Master, Hand of Dorn, Lament, Master-crafted Power Sword, Siege Master, Stratagem: Sentinel of Terra, Warlord . Master-crafted stalker bolt rifle Primaris Techmarine: Chapter Command: Master of the Forge + Troops + Infiltrator Squad . 3x Infiltrator: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Frag & Krak grenades, 3x Marksman bolt carbine . Infiltrator Helix Adept . Infiltrator Sergeant Intercessor Squad: Astartes Grenade Launcher, Stalker Bolt Rifle . 9x Intercessor: 9x Bolt pistol, 9x Frag & Krak grenades . Intercessor Sergeant: Power fist Intercessor Squad: Astartes Grenade Launcher, Stalker Bolt Rifle . 9x Intercessor: 9x Bolt pistol, 9x Frag & Krak grenades . Intercessor Sergeant: Power fist Intercessor Squad: Astartes Grenade Launcher, Stalker Bolt Rifle . 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Intercessor Sergeant: Astartes Chainsword + Elites + Invictor Tactical Warsuit: Twin ironhail autocannon Invictor Tactical Warsuit: Twin ironhail autocannon Primaris Apothecary: Chapter Command: Chief Apothecary, Selfless Healer, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter, The Vox Espiritum Redemptor Dreadnought: 2x Storm Bolters, Icarus Rocket Pod, Macro Plasma Incinerator, Onslaught Gatling Cannon Redemptor Dreadnought: 2x Storm Bolters, Icarus Rocket Pod, Macro Plasma Incinerator, Onslaught Gatling Cannon + Fast Attack + Land Speeders . Land Speeder: Multi-melta + Heavy Support + Eradicator Squad: Heavy melta rifle . 2x Eradicator: 2x Bolt pistol . Eradicator Sgt ++ Total: [97 PL, 7CP, 2,000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)

Greetings Brothers and Sisters, I know that our proud chapter have invented many tactical formations during the millenias. But I just want to share my next project for our gaming group's next: 1500pts/player 3vs3 multiplayer match. This list is highly unbound and in our gaming group unbound is allowed, as long as it is somewhat friendly gaming. This is just for fun. ^^ http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd520/lundmarkaren/2015-04-13%2023.51.10.jpg The list: Command squad: Company Champion (Emperors Champion), Power Sword. Veteran (Duke Nukem), flamer (must remove the jet pack) Veteran (Danny Trejo aka. Machete), Power Sword (must remove the jet pack) Veteran (Omar), combi-plasma, power sword Apothecary ('Doc) Captain (Shredder) Artificer armour, 2x lightning claws Librarian (Franz Grenzstein) Force Sword, Lvl 2, Biomancy Captain Darnath Lysander Inkvisitor (Unsinn (he with the white costume and black cat)), lvl 1 Divination, Inferno Pistol, Power Sword, Liber Heresius Librarian (Stern), lvl 2, terminator armour, force staff, Shield eternal, Biomancy Pedro Kantor Master of the forge (Angus McGyver) Chaplain (Zealalot, not on picture) jump jet Land Raider Crusader (drivers: Hans and Helmut)

Good evening, I'm new to the forums and like all of you I am going to be new to 8th Edition. I like to be competitive on a casual level, if that makes sense. I have a few concerns and queries about my army in particular and I hope to get some constructive feedback. I collect Imperial Fists heavily based on the 'Sentinels of Terra' supplement codex as well as being a drop pod assault themed army. To begin with my two main concerns are Sgt Garadon and drop pods. Sgt Garadon is my HQ of choice throughout 7th edition, he is a character upgraded from a tactical squad sergeant for a total of 75 points making the squad a HQ choice. He has the rule set of a captain and can take no additional upgrades, his wargear is simply a special bolt pistol that ignores cover called the 'spartein', a standard power fist and of-course an iron halo. He isn't in the index's or codex's for 8th edition, yet various youtubers have promised that supplements will come within the year. With the new rule (I don't know its name) to do with special characters not being able to join units? I'm not certain I will get my Sgt Garadon back at all, can anyone shed some light or education for me here? Secondly and possibly my largest concern being drop pods tripling in point cost. I currently have 7 drop pods in my 2000 odd 7th edition point list, all together I have my captain as above, 6 tactical squadrons and 3 devastator squadrons with a aegis defence line. With money always a large deciding factor when it comes to warhammer I don't want to have to replace any of my army, my main question being can i play this army at a casually competitive level or am I going to loose a lot more games? Chapter Tactics + Supplement benefits My Devastators before had a special rule known as tank hunter allowing me to re-roll wounds if they did not penetrate. Also my army was built to accommodate the boltor drill from my chapter tactics. Neither of these are in 8th edition as far as I know. Though my devastators will be able to split fire now making them more powerful, loosing these two rules has really broke the spirit of my army, and my own. Again various youtubers are convinced we will get chapter tactics and supplements within the following year, what do you think? To summarize; So far from what I have gathered specifically about my army isn't looking good. The point trade off with drop pods, loosing my chapter rules and the daunting concern of having to replace my HQ has puts me off the new edition. Not only this but there is icing on the cake, I have a really bad feeling Primaris Marines are going to replace the Space Marines completely and sadly the fluff behind it could have been better, but this is a different topic for another thread. Thanks in advance for any constructive feedback