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Hi there! Over the past year Ive been trying to build a casual and thematic IF list with the templar assault ROW. Unfortunately, it doesnt seem like many people use this one or build a list around it, so Ive been kind of piecing it together without much advise. Id Like to hear your thoughts on the current list, and the more ideal competitive version of it. Ive only every played other peoples tryhard lists before, so Im not really sure how this fairs against an average army. Any advice would be appreciated, and if I have some rules wrong please let me know. Here are my personal restrictions: -no recon marines/scouts -no phalanx warders - set late siege of Terra around warhawk. This is the current list, and comprises of the models I have so far: The Idea for this list is to have dorn and huscarls in spartan, Sigi and some templar in proteus, and the other templar with the preator in deepstrike. Tacs grab objectives while dreads cover supporting fire for dorn and sigi to move up the board and take on elite units, once positioning is ok the other deepstrike squad will come in and flank some power armour like a heavy support squad or something. Templars also have line for objectives. Dorn and his pals take on the biggest threat, while sigi challenges the second highest threat. Tanks do damage to other vehicles/dreads or teminators. Templars should also have melta bombs to deal with any in the backlines LA - VII: Imperial Fists - Imperial Fists 3.5k - [3500Pts] ## Crusade Force Organisation Chart [3500Pts] ### Expanded Army Lists Expanded Army List Profiles:: Legacy Units On, Exemplary Units On ### Allegiance: Allegiance: Loyalist VII: Imperial Fists ### Rite of War: Rite of War: Templar Assault (IF) ### HQ: [385Pts] Praetor, Tartaros [155Pts]: Krak Grenades, Artificer Armour, Frag Grenades • Legion Tartaros Praetor [155Pts]: Vigil Storm Shield, Minor Combi-Weapon - Flamer, Magna Combi-Weapon - Disintegrator, Power Sword, Paragon Blade, Teleport Strike, Master of the Legion, Tartaros Terminator Armour Sigismund [230Pts]: Krak Grenades, Artificer Armour, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Iron Halo, Frag Grenades, Artificer Armour, Master of the Legion, The Black Sword, Master-crafted bolt pistol • Sigismund ### Elites: [230Pts] Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [230Pts] • Contemptor Dreadnought [230Pts]: Havoc Launcher, Iliastus Assault Cannon, Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon, Gravis Lascannon, Atomantic Deflector ### Troops: [890Pts] Tactical Squad [220Pts]: Krak Grenades, Frag Grenades, Power Armour • 19x Legionaries (collective) [190Pts]: Bolter, Bolt Pistol • Legion Tactical Sergeant [20Pts]: Artificer Armour, Meltabombs, Bolter, Bolt Pistol Templar Brethren [335Pts]: Meltabombs, 9x Combat Shield, Krak Grenades, Frag Grenades, Artificer Armour, Power Sword, Bolt Pistol • 9x Brethren [225Pts] • Champion [17Pts]: Combat Shield, Solarite Power Gauntlet, Archaeotech Pistol Templar Brethren [335Pts]: Meltabombs, 9x Combat Shield, Krak Grenades, Frag Grenades, Artificer Armour, Power Sword, Bolt Pistol • 9x Brethren [225Pts] • Champion [17Pts]: Combat Shield, Solarite Power Gauntlet, Archaeotech Pistol ### Heavy Support: [995Pts] Land Raider Proteus Carrier Squadron [240Pts]: Land Raider Proteus Carrier, Searchlights, Twin-linked Lascannon, Legiones Astartes (X), 2x Sponson Mounted Gravis Lascannon, Smoke Launchers Land Raider Spartan [425Pts]: Land Raider Spartan, Multi-Melta, Searchlights, Flare Shield, Hull (Front) Mounted Twin-linked Heavy Bolter, 2x Lascannon Array, Legiones Astartes (X), Smoke Launchers Leviathan Dreadnought Talon [330Pts] • Leviathan [330Pts]: 2x Iliastus Assault Cannons, 2x Iliastus Assault Cannon, Leviathan Siege Claw, Leviathan Siege Claw, Phosphex Discharger, Atomantic Deflector ### Primarch: [1000Pts] Rogal Dorn [1000Pts]: Krak Grenades, Artificer Armour, Frag Grenades, Huscarl Squad, Master of the Legion, Frag Grenades, Warlord, The Voice of Terra, The Auric Armour, Storm's Teeth • Rogal Dorn I havent gotten to fully test this list, but I have the feeling that an army of thunderhamer termies with a chaplain and other elite termies would wipe these guys out, so I made some revisions. What do you think (its slightly overcosted but its a wip)? LA - VII: Imperial Fists - Imperial Fists new - [3080Pts] ## Crusade Force Organisation Chart [3080Pts] ### Expanded Army Lists Expanded Army List Profiles:: Legacy Units On, Exemplary Units On ### Allegiance: Allegiance: Loyalist VII: Imperial Fists ### Rite of War: Rite of War: Templar Assault (IF) ### HQ: [1005Pts] Praetor, Tartaros [150Pts] • Legion Tartaros Praetor [150Pts]: Combi-Bolter, Power Weapon, Power Sword, Teleport Strike, Vigil Storm Shield, Master of the Legion, Tartaros Terminator Armour Sigismund [855Pts]: Huscarl Squad, Krak Grenades, Iron Halo, Frag Grenades, Artificer Armour, Master of the Legion, Warlord, The Black Sword, Master-crafted bolt pistol • Sigismund ### Elites: [750Pts] Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [175Pts] • Contemptor Dreadnought [175Pts]: Combi-Bolter, Gravis Bolt Cannon, Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon, Atomantic Deflector Terminator Cataphractii Squad [575Pts]: Cataphractii Terminator Armour • Cataphractii Sergeant [25Pts]: Vigil Storm Shield, Solarite Power Gauntlet • 9x Cataphractii [55Pts]: Solarite Power Gauntlet, Vigil Storm Shield ### Troops: [1100Pts] Templar Brethren [550Pts]: Land Raider Proteus Carrier, Twin-linked Lascannon, Legiones Astartes (X), 2x Sponson Mounted Gravis Lascannon, Smoke Launchers, Legion Vexilla, 9x Combat Shield, Krak Grenades, Frag Grenades, Artificer Armour, Power Sword, Bolt Pistol • 9x Brethren [225Pts] • Champion [12Pts]: Combat Shield, Solarite Power Gauntlet, Bolt Pistol Templar Brethren [550Pts]: Land Raider Proteus Carrier, Twin-linked Lascannon, Legiones Astartes (X), 2x Sponson Mounted Gravis Lascannon, Smoke Launchers, Legion Vexilla, 9x Combat Shield, Krak Grenades, Frag Grenades, Artificer Armour, Power Sword, Bolt Pistol • 9x Brethren [225Pts] • Champion [12Pts]: Combat Shield, Solarite Power Gauntlet, Bolt Pistol ### Heavy Support: [225Pts] Deredeo Dreadnought Talon [225Pts] • Legion Deredeo Dreadnought [225Pts]: Four Boreas Air Defence Missiles, Twin-linked Heavy Bolter, Arachnus Heavy Lascannon Battery, Atomantic Deflector, Helical Targeting Array In this list, there are more terminators to deal with more units, but there are still templars as troops with line. They ride in proteus tanks to get them from a to b safely, and cap objectives/kill infantry. preator and regular terminators deepstrike wherever is needed to cause pressure and do big damage, while contemptor helps where it can. Deredo adds long range support and anti air. Sigi and his huscarls move up slowly in cover to challenge the hq. Is this list a better idea?