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So I am working on putting together my first army, and I figured I should start with 1k and add to it. Here is the 1k: ++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - White Scars) [45 PL, 6CP, 995pts] ++ + Configuration + **Chapter Selection** Battle Size [6CP]: 2. Incursion (51-100 Total PL / 501-1000 Points) Detachment Command Cost + HQ + Primaris Chaplain on Bike [7 PL, 140pts]: Chapter Command: Master of Sanctity, Litany of Hate, Rites of War, Warlord Primaris Chapter Master [7 PL, 145pts]: Chapter Command: Chapter Master . Heavy bolt pistol, Master-crafted power sword and Relic shield: Master-crafted power sword, Relic Shield + Troops + Assault Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 115pts] . 4x Assault Intercessor: 4x Astartes Chainsword, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Heavy Bolt Pistol . Assault Intercessor Sgt: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Thunder hammer Assault Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 115pts] . 4x Assault Intercessor: 4x Astartes Chainsword, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Heavy Bolt Pistol . Assault Intercessor Sgt: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Thunder hammer + Elites + Redemptor Dreadnought [9 PL, 180pts]: 2x Fragstorm Grenade Launchers, Heavy flamer, Icarus Rocket Pod, Macro Plasma Incinerator + Fast Attack + Outrider Squad [6 PL, 150pts]: Outrider Sgt . 2x Outrider: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 2x Twin Bolt rifle Outrider Squad [6 PL, 150pts]: Outrider Sgt . 2x Outrider: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 2x Twin Bolt rifle ++ Total: [45 PL, 6CP, 995pts] ++ I am not sure which litanies and wargear to put on the chaplain, nor am I 100% sure white scars is the best chapter. My strategy would be to have the chaplain and outriders run up the board first and kill what they can/ possibly take some objectives, while the rest of the force slogs up. Here is what I was thinking for bringing it up to 2k: ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - White Scars) [55 PL, 1,225pts] ++ + Configuration + **Chapter Selection** Detachment Command Cost + HQ + Primaris Captain [5 PL, 105pts] . Heavy bolt pistol, Master-crafted power sword and Relic shield: Master-crafted power sword, Relic Shield Primaris Chaplain on Bike [7 PL, 140pts]: Chapter Command: Master of Sanctity, Litany of Hate, Warlord + Troops + Assault Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 115pts] . 4x Assault Intercessor: 4x Astartes Chainsword, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Heavy Bolt Pistol . Assault Intercessor Sgt: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Thunder hammer Assault Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 115pts] . 4x Assault Intercessor: 4x Astartes Chainsword, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Heavy Bolt Pistol . Assault Intercessor Sgt: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Thunder hammer Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 120pts] . 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine . Infiltrator Sergeant + Elites + Redemptor Dreadnought [9 PL, 180pts]: 2x Fragstorm Grenade Launchers, Heavy flamer, Icarus Rocket Pod, Macro Plasma Incinerator + Fast Attack + Outrider Squad [6 PL, 150pts]: Outrider Sgt . 2x Outrider: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 2x Twin Bolt rifle Outrider Squad [6 PL, 150pts]: Outrider Sgt . 2x Outrider: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 2x Twin Bolt rifle Outrider Squad [6 PL, 150pts]: Outrider Sgt . 2x Outrider: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 2x Twin Bolt rifle ++ Super-Heavy Detachment -6CP (Imperium - Imperial Knights) [40 PL, 775pts] ++ + Lord of War + Armiger Warglaives [7 PL, 135pts] . Armiger Warglaive: Heavy Stubber Armiger Warglaives [7 PL, 135pts] . Armiger Warglaive: Heavy Stubber Knight Crusader [26 PL, 505pts]: Heavy Stubber, Thermal Cannon, Twin Icarus Autocannon ++ Total: [95 PL, 2,000pts] ++ I am less sold on this one. I know that souping knights is not the best competitive option, but I have the models, and I would like to do so in a way that would not be completely terrible. Is there any way to improve on this?), and still keep the three knights? I also want to stick to primaris units only. Thanks!

Hello all. (Had to create a new account because couldn't recover my old one) I am trying to figure out how to finish out this list. It's a samurai themed chapter remake using only primarus. The captain will be the daimyo and the judiciars will be naginata warrior monks while the champion will be modeled like a sword saint. I got a decent anti horde with the intercessors and solid anti tank with 3 Valiants but I'm not sure how to round out the rest of the list. Anything sword themed is good but I'm not sure if bladeguard would be worth it. Thought about Lieutenants for auras too but I'm not sure what direction to go. Open to all suggestions. ++ Arks of Omen Detachment (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - White Scars) [103 PL, 5CP, 1,720pts] ++ + Configuration + **Chapter Selector**: White Scars Arks of Omen Compulsory Type: Troops Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment Command Cost Game Type: 5. Chapter Approved: Arks of Omen + HQ + Primaris Captain [5 PL, 80pts]: Master-crafted power sword, Warlord . Master-crafted auto bolt rifle + Troops + Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Astartes Grenade Launcher, Auto Bolt Rifle . 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Intercessor Sergeant: Power sword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Astartes Grenade Launcher, Auto Bolt Rifle . 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Intercessor Sergeant: Power sword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Astartes Grenade Launcher, Auto Bolt Rifle . 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Intercessor Sergeant: Power sword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Astartes Grenade Launcher, Auto Bolt Rifle . 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Intercessor Sergeant: Power sword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Astartes Grenade Launcher, Auto Bolt Rifle . 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Intercessor Sergeant: Power sword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Astartes Grenade Launcher, Auto Bolt Rifle . 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Intercessor Sergeant: Power sword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Astartes Grenade Launcher, Auto Bolt Rifle . 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Intercessor Sergeant: Power sword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Astartes Grenade Launcher, Auto Bolt Rifle . 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Intercessor Sergeant: Power sword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Astartes Grenade Launcher, Auto Bolt Rifle . 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Intercessor Sergeant: Power sword Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Astartes Grenade Launcher, Auto Bolt Rifle . 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Intercessor Sergeant: Power sword + Elites + Judiciar [5 PL, 75pts] Judiciar [5 PL, 75pts] Primaris Company Champion [Legends] [5 PL, -1CP, 80pts]: Blade of Triumph, Chapter Command: Chapter Champion, Stratagem: Relic + Heavy Support + Gladiator Valiant [11 PL, 170pts]: Icarus Rocket Pod, Ironhail Heavy Stubber Gladiator Valiant [11 PL, 170pts]: Icarus Rocket Pod, Ironhail Heavy Stubber Gladiator Valiant [11 PL, 170pts]: Icarus Rocket Pod, Ironhail Heavy Stubber ++ Total: [103 PL, 5CP, 1,720pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe

Hey All- been away for a long time. Forcing myself to get back in by setting a goal to have a tourney-decent list ready for a Tournament upcoming in July 2021. Ticket is paid for, hotel is reserved- so I am committed at this point in order to help motivate me. So, here is the thing: I suck as a general in general- and I haven't played a single game of 9th edition. My successor chapter uses White Scars rules, stratagems, etc.- keeping things simple by sticking with (what little) I know. My goal is so have a list that follows my theme of "Strike fast, strike hard". Also, they are very devout, and always take a Chaplain for every detachment. I have no expectations of winning my battles- I just want to be competitive and play it well- so the simpler the rules/choices for a unit, the better. I am not taking any large vehicles on purpose- both by theme, and to make the army easier to travel with on a plane. I don't have any new/Primaris models purchased- so I need to bring my army up to speed, while hopefully using a good chunk of existing infantry. Ok, be gentle- but open to any and all ideas so I can lock down a list and get paining... Storm Brothers (Fast List) Adeptus Astartes Battalion Detachment ( 3CP - 696PT ) SUB-FACTION: White Scars HQ: WARLORD: Khan on Bike (110) TRAITS: Chogorian Storm Chaplain in Terminator Armour (120) CHAPTER COMMAND UPGRADE: Master of Sanctity LITANIES: Catechism of Fire TROOPS: Infiltrator Squad (120) 4x Infiltrator 1x Infiltrator Sergeant Tactical Squad (123) 4x Space Marine 1x Space Marine Sergeant: Plasma pistol 1x Space Marine: Plasma gun Tactical Squad (133) 4x Space Marine 1x Space Marine Sergeant: Power fist 1x Space Marine: Missile launcher HEAVY SUPPORT Eliminator Squad (90) 2x Eliminator 1x Eliminator Sergeant Adeptus Astartes Outrider Detachment ( 3CP - 565PT ) SUB-FACTION: White Scars HQ: Primaris Chaplain on Bike (115) LITANIES: Canticle of Hate (Aura) FAST ATTACK Outrider Squad (150) 2x Outrider 1x Outrider Sergeant Outrider Squad (150) 2x Outrider 1x Outrider Sergeant Outrider Squad (150) 2x Outrider 1x Outrider Sergeant Adeptus Astartes Outrider Detachment ( 3CP - 675PT ) SUB-FACTION: White Scars HQ: Chaplain (105) Jump pack LITANIES: Exhortation of Rage FAST ATTACK Assault Squad (210) 1x Assault Marine Sergeant: Power fist, Jump pack 9x Assault Marine: Jump pack Bike Squad (210) 1x Attack Bike 1x Biker Sergeant: Combi-grav 3x Space Marine Biker 1x Space Marine Biker: Flamer Storm Speeder Hailstrike (150) Total Command Points: 9/15 Reinforcement Points: 4 Total Points: 1996/2000

Alright, I hope to get some conversation going here. I'm fortunate in that I can play in one of my main groups frequently. I've really enjoyed the White Scars playstyle since 8th edition but I feel like the hype is a little over done as more codexes come out in 9th. For example I find Death Guard just exceptionally difficult to match up against since they inherently just 'shut off' the super doctrine, and they LOVE it when you get within all those negative auraus. The next hurdle for me is Sanguinary guard heavy Blood Angels. Tough match up. He also favours a Leviathan Dread which is a great tool for popping Intercessors. What I plan to try is to use my new Reiver LT to manipulate obsec. I usually use Assault intercessors for troops with hammers, but I'm considering regular intercessors for the shooting ability of the assault bolters. The only thing I'm certain of is Bladeguard + Thunderstrike (new speeder for fun) + 3 MM ATV's. Anyone have any advice to round out the list? Some hot takes on some good WS units?

Warlord traits (for all) The Imperium’s Sword, Chogorian Storm Captain with Jump Pack, Chainsword, Thunderhammer - 130 pts Relic - Teeth of Terra Or Captain with Jump Pack - Thunderhammer, Stormshield - Armor Indominus or Master-Crafted Thunderhammer (relic) 140 pts Or Captain with Jump Pack - Thunderhammer, Stormshield - Chapter Master - Angel Artifice - 180 pts Or Captain with Jump Pack - Chainsword, Stormshield - Chapter Master - Angel Artifice - 160 pts Or Captain with Jump Pack - Relic Blade, Stormshield - Master-Crafted Relic Blade - 130 pts 4x base + 2x + d3 when charging (Imperium’s Sword + Shock Assault + Chogorian Storm) + 3x Teeth of Terra = 7-9 Thunderhammer OR Teeth of Terra OR Relic Blade Attacks + 3 Teeth of Terra Attacks. Are 7-9 Thunderhammer attacks enough, and go resiliency? Is taking two weapons to be cheap and take on a bit of everything? Not sure what the best course of action here? This would be using a Successor Chapter using Whirlwind of Rage or Born Heroes and Hungry for Battle.

Inheritors of the Primarch - Custom Chapter 2,000 pts Battalion HQ Captain - Thunderhammer, Storm Shield, Jump pack - Chapter Master - The Imperium’s Sword, Chogorian Storm - Plume of the Plainstrider - 180 Pts 2 CP Primaris Chaplain - Master of Sanctity - Canticle of Hate, Exhortation of Rage - 110 Pts Primaris Librarian - Spirits of Chogoris, Storm-Wreathed - 95 Pts Troops Infiltrator - 5-man - Helix Gauntlet - 130 Pts Infiltrator - 5-man - Helix Gauntlet - 130 Pts Intercessor Squad - 5-man - Auto-Bolt Rifles - Power Fist - 110 Pts Intercessor Squad - 5-man - Auto-Bolt Rifles - Power Fist - 110 Pts Elites Bladeguard Ancient - 85 Pts Company Champion - Chapter Champion - Blade of Triumph - Martial Exemplar - 70 Pts, 2CP Primaris Apothecary - Chief Apothecary - Selfless Healer - Armor Indomitus - 95 Pts, 2 CP Bladeguard Veteran Squad - 5-man - 175 Pts Vanguard Veteran Squad - 7-man - Sergeant: Thunderhammer and Storm Shield, 2x Power Fists and Storm Shields, 4x Lightning Claw and Storm Shield - 215 pts Fast Attack Attack Bikes - 3-man - 3x Multi-Meltas - 165 Pts Attack Bikes - 3-man - 3x Multi-Meltas - 165 Pts Inceptor Squad - 3-man - 6x Plasma Exterminators - 165 Pts 2000/2000 Pts - 6/15 CPs Infiltrators on home objectives, Infiltrators grab midfield objectives. Foot Characters and Bladeguard push the center or flank. Captain, Vanguard, Attack Bikes, and Inceptors hunt down hard targets. Overall I am liking this, it feels like three solid strike groups, each capable of playing the Anvil and two groups the Hammers. The Bladeguard Ancient is the only unit I question in the list, likewise the Chapter Master upgrade isn’t necessary, as well as two of the Lightning Claw Vanguard. That would beg the question what to do with 181 pts. A Dreadnought is out, there just isn’t enough target saturation for him. Only other thing I can really think of is a second 5-man Bladeguard squad. Also toyed with the idea of making the Vanguard Sergeant Master-Crafted. Thoughts, suggestions?

Hi all, I'm getting back into 40k after a nearly 20 yr hiatus and am about 75% of my way through painting my marines. I love the White Scars playstyle and iconography, but for fluff reasons, I would rather build my own chapter rather than pure WS. I appreciate this probably isnt the best for playstyle ( no Khan for example) but it means I can paint how I want. I originally was going to just run Inheritors of the Primarch and play exact WS but I then thought of running Born Heroes & Whirlwind of rage or swapping one out for Hungry for Battle. The only negatives I see is that it would be a little bit slower and can't fall back and charge being a big one, but based on the below list, my approach is already very fast and can get around the board at speed. It is very reactive with heavy board presence and with the ST it becomes a melee beast on T3. I'm open to any critique of this approach, as I've only played one game since being back into this, so the pure WS may be a much better option. Thanks **+++ White Scars Successor (Warhammer 40,000 9th Edition) [99 PL, -3CP, 2,001pts] +++** **++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - White Scars) [99 PL, -3CP, 2,001pts] ++** **Rules:** *Angels of Death, Bolter Discipline, Shock Assault* **+ Configuration +** ****Chapter Selection**:** Born Heroes , Whirlwind of Rage, White Scars Successor . **Categories:** *Configuration* **Detachment Command Cost** . **Categories:** *Configuration* **+ HQ [21 PL, -3CP, 440pts] +** **Captain [6 PL, -1CP, 120pts]:** Astartes Chainsword, Jump Pack [1 PL, 25pts], Rites of War, Storm shield [10pts], Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter [-1CP], Teeth of Terra . **Categories:** *Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Character, Faction: Imperium, Infantry, Captain, HQ, Fly, Jump Pack* . **Rules:** *Angels of Death, Death from Above* **Chapter Master [8 PL, -1CP, 180pts]:** Champion of Humanity, Chapter Command: Chapter Master [2 PL, 40pts], Jump Pack [1 PL, 25pts], Master of Snares, Master-Crafted Weapon, Storm shield [10pts], Stratagem: Tempered by Wisdom [-1CP], Thunder hammer [20pts], Warlord . **Categories:** *Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Character, Faction: Imperium, Infantry, Captain, HQ, Fly, Jump Pack, Chapter Master, Warlord* . **Rules:** *Angels of Death, Death from Above* **Primaris Chaplain on Bike [7 PL, -1CP, 140pts]:** 3. Exhortation of Rage, 6. Canticle of Hate (Aura), Chapter Command: Master of Sanctity [1 PL, 25pts], Litany of Hate, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter [-1CP], Wise Orator . **Categories:** *Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Character, Chaplain, Faction: Imperium, Primaris, Priest, Biker, HQ, Master of Sanctity* . **Rules:** *Angels of Death* **+ Troops [17 PL, 375pts] +** **Assault Intercessor Squad [5 PL, 115pts]** . **Categories:** *Faction: Imperium, Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Primaris, Infantry, Assault Intercessor Squad, Core, Intercessors, Troops* . **Rules:** *Angels of Death, Combat Squads* . **4x Assault Intercessor [76pts]:** 4x Astartes Chainsword, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Heavy Bolt Pistol . **Assault Intercessor Sgt [39pts]:** Heavy Bolt Pistol, Thunder hammer [20pts] **Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 130pts]:** Helix gauntlet [10pts] . **Categories:** *Smokescreen, Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Primaris, Infantry, Infiltrator Squad, Phobos, Faction: Imperium, Core, Troops* . **Rules:** *Angels of Death, Combat Squads, Concealed Positions* . **4x Infiltrator [96pts]:** 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine . **Infiltrator Sergeant [24pts]** **Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 130pts]:** Helix gauntlet [10pts] . **Categories:** *Smokescreen, Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Primaris, Infantry, Infiltrator Squad, Phobos, Faction: Imperium, Core, Troops* . **Rules:** *Angels of Death, Combat Squads, Concealed Positions* . **4x Infiltrator [96pts]:** 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine . **Infiltrator Sergeant [24pts]** **+ Elites [34 PL, 556pts] +** **Company Veterans [3 PL, 54pts]** . **Categories:** *Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Company Veterans, Faction: Imperium, Infantry, Command Squad, Core, Elites* . **Rules:** *Angels of Death* . **Company Veteran [27pts]:** Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [4pts] . **Company Veteran Sergeant [27pts]:** Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [4pts] **Company Veterans [3 PL, 54pts]** . **Categories:** *Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Company Veterans, Faction: Imperium, Infantry, Command Squad, Core, Elites* . **Rules:** *Angels of Death* . **Company Veteran [27pts]:** Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [4pts] . **Company Veteran Sergeant [27pts]:** Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [4pts] **Vanguard Veteran Squad [14 PL, 224pts]:** Jump Pack [2 PL, 16pts] . **Categories:** *Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Infantry, Faction: Imperium, Vanguard Veteran Squad, Core, Melta Bombs, Elites, Fly, Jump Pack* . **Rules:** *Angels of Death, Combat Squads, Death from Above* . **Vanguard Veteran [26pts]:** Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [4pts] . **Vanguard Veteran [26pts]:** Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [4pts] . **Vanguard Veteran [26pts]:** Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [4pts] . **Vanguard Veteran [26pts]:** Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [4pts] . **Vanguard Veteran [26pts]:** Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [4pts] . **Vanguard Veteran [26pts]:** Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [4pts] . **Vanguard Veteran [26pts]:** Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [4pts] . **Vanguard Veteran Sergeant [26pts]:** Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [4pts] **Vanguard Veteran Squad [14 PL, 224pts]:** Jump Pack [2 PL, 16pts] . **Categories:** *Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Infantry, Faction: Imperium, Vanguard Veteran Squad, Core, Melta Bombs, Elites, Fly, Jump Pack* . **Rules:** *Angels of Death, Combat Squads, Death from Above* . **Vanguard Veteran [26pts]:** Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [4pts] . **Vanguard Veteran [26pts]:** Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [4pts] . **Vanguard Veteran [26pts]:** Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [4pts] . **Vanguard Veteran [26pts]:** Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [4pts] . **Vanguard Veteran [26pts]:** Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [4pts] . **Vanguard Veteran [26pts]:** Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [4pts] . **Vanguard Veteran [26pts]:** Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [4pts] . **Vanguard Veteran Sergeant [26pts]:** Lightning Claw [3pts], Storm shield [4pts] **+ Fast Attack [20 PL, 495pts] +** **Attack Bike Squad [6 PL, 165pts]** . **Categories:** *Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Attack Bike Squad, Biker, Faction: Imperium, Core, Fast Attack* . **Rules:** *Angels of Death* . **Attack Bike [2 PL, 55pts]:** Multi-melta [10pts] . **Attack Bike [2 PL, 55pts]:** Multi-melta [10pts] . **Attack Bike [2 PL, 55pts]:** Multi-melta [10pts] **Inceptor Squad [7 PL, 165pts]:** 2x Inceptor [90pts], Inceptor Sergeant [45pts], Plasma Exterminator x2 [30pts] . **Categories:** *Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Fly, Faction: Imperium, Inceptor Squad, Infantry, Jump Pack, Mk X Gravis, Primaris, Core, Fast Attack* . **Rules:** *Angels of Death, Combat Squads, Death from Above* **Inceptor Squad [7 PL, 165pts]:** 2x Inceptor [90pts], Inceptor Sergeant [45pts], Plasma Exterminator x2 [30pts] . **Categories:** *Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Fly, Faction: Imperium, Inceptor Squad, Infantry, Jump Pack, Mk X Gravis, Primaris, Core, Fast Attack* . **Rules:** *Angels of Death, Combat Squads, Death from Above* **+ Heavy Support [7 PL, 135pts] +** **Eradicator Squad [7 PL, 135pts]:** Melta rifle . **Categories:** *Primaris, Mk X Gravis, Infantry, Faction: Imperium, Faction: Adeptus Astartes, Eradicator Squad, Core, Heavy Support* . **Rules:** *Angels of Death, Combat Squads* . **2x Eradicator [90pts]:** 2x Bolt pistol . **Eradicator Sgt [45pts]**

Hey Guys A long time ago I made a WS army, but I have (due to corona) not been playing since an age ago. I an currently trying to put together an army which at one time is for fun play and at another time for turnement play. I am hoping for some feedback. ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - White Scars) [92 PL, 8CP, 2,000pts] ++ + Configuration + **Chapter Selector**: Custom Chapter, Hungry for Battle, Tactical Withdrawal, White Scars Successor Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment Command Cost + Stratagems + Gifts of the Khans [-1CP] Relics of the Chapter [-1CP]: Number of Extra Relics + HQ + Captain [6 PL, -1CP, 120pts]: Astartes Chainsword, Chogorian Storm, Jump Pack, Storm shield, Stratagem: Tempered by Wisdom, Teeth of Terra, The Imperium's Sword, Warlord Captain on Bike [8 PL, -1CP, 170pts]: Chapter Command: Chapter Master, Master of the Codex, Storm shield, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter, Thunder hammer, Wrath of the Heavens + Troops + Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 130pts]: Helix gauntlet . 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine . Infiltrator Sergeant Infiltrator Squad [6 PL, 130pts]: Helix gauntlet . 4x Infiltrator: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Marksman bolt carbine . Infiltrator Sergeant Tactical Squad [5 PL, 130pts] . 3x Space Marine: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades . Space Marine Sergeant: Combi-plasma, Power fist . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta Tactical Squad [5 PL, 130pts] . 3x Space Marine: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades . Space Marine Sergeant: Combi-plasma, Power fist . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Multi-melta + Elites + Relic Terminator Squad [9 PL, 190pts] . Relic Terminator: Combi-bolter, Lightning Claw . Relic Terminator: Combi-bolter, Lightning Claw . Relic Terminator: Combi-bolter, Power fist . Relic Terminator Sergeant: Chainfist, Plasma blaster . Relic Terminator w/Heavy Weapon: Lightning Claw, Reaper autocannon Terminator Assault Squad [9 PL, 200pts]: Teleport Homer . Assault Terminator Sergeant . . Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield: Thunder hammer . 2x Assault Terminator w/THSS: 2x Storm shield, 2x Thunder hammer . 2x Assault Terminator w/x2LC: 2x Lightning Claw (Pair) Vanguard Veteran Squad [7 PL, 155pts]: Jump Pack . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: Lightning Claw, Storm shield . Vanguard Veteran: 2x Lightning Claw . Vanguard Veteran: Storm shield, Thunder hammer . Vanguard Veteran Sergeant: Relic blade, Storm shield + Fast Attack + Land Speeders [6 PL, 140pts] . Land Speeder: Multi-melta . Land Speeder: Multi-melta Outrider Squad [6 PL, 150pts]: Outrider Sgt . 2x Outrider: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 2x Twin Bolt rifle + Heavy Support + Devastator Squad [8 PL, 135pts]: Armorium Cherub . Devastator Marine Sergeant: Astartes Chainsword, Boltgun . Devastator Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Grav-cannon . Devastator Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Grav-cannon . Devastator Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Grav-cannon . Devastator Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Grav-cannon Eliminator Squad [5 PL, 90pts]: Bolt sniper rifle . Eliminator Sergeant: Instigator Bolt Carbine . 2x Eliminators: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Camo cloak, 2x Frag & Krak grenades + Dedicated Transport + Razorback [6 PL, 130pts]: Hunter-killer missile, Storm bolter, Twin lascannon ++ Total: [92 PL, 8CP, 2,000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe

Haven't been able to get a game of 9th yet due to various lock downs and restrictions but was looking for some feed back on the list below. I'm not a competitive player but want to be able to have good games against a diverse set of players. In addition I want to run an only first born army because it's a DIY chapter and head cannon. The current plan is to run them as inheritors of the primarch; have the Tactical Squads and Razorbacks hold the deployment zone whilst the Vanguard Vets move up to mid board with the librarian. The bike squads support the Vanguard Vets and the Landspeeders try and cause maximum disruption in the opponent's deployment zone. The terminators teleport in where needed. Battalion Detachment Command points 9 (12 base: -1 for extra relic, -1 for warlord trait on Librarian, -1 for extra warlord trait on Captain Command Captain 125pts Jump pack, combi melta, relic blade. Relic: Adamantine mantle Warlord traits: Master of Snares and Hunter'sp Instincts. Librarian 115pts Jump pack, force staff Relic: Artificer Armour Warlord trait: Rites of War Powers: Storm Wreathed, Spirits Of Chogoris Troops Tactical Squad 110pts Sergeant with storm bolter and chainsword 1 Marine with missile launcher 3 Marines with boltguns Tactical Squad 110pts Sergeant with storm bolter and chainsword 1 Marine with missile launcher 3 Marines with boltguns Tactical Squad 105pts Sergeant with storm bolter and chainsword 1 Marine with grav cannon 3 Marines with bolt guns Elite Vanguard Veterans 185pts 1 Sergeant and 4 Veterans with jump packs, thunder hammers and storm shields. Vangaurd Veterans 185pts 1 Sergeant and 4 Veterans with jump packs, thunder hammers and storm shields. Relic Terminator Squad 195pts 1 Sergeant and 4 Terminators with combi bolter and chain fists. Fast Attack 1 Bike Squad 175pts 1 Sergeant with thunder hammer 1 Biker with melta gun 3 Bikers with chainswords 1 Bike Squad 175pts 1 Sergeant with thunder hammer 1 Biker with melta gun 3 Bikers with chainswords Landspeeder Tornado Squadron 270pts 3 Landspeeder Tornadoes with multi melta and assault cannon Dedicated Transports 1 Razorback 125pts Twin las cannon and stormbolter 1 Razorback 125pts Twin Las cannon and storm bolter Total 2000pts.

So after some thoughts and "soul searching" with a White Scars succesor army, and a little consideration with the models I currently have and are gonna buy, I have come up with an army which I feel balance pretty well. I must say, that I am still new to WH 40K so bear in mind please: 2000 pts SM White Scars successor army: Chapter tactics: Hunry for Battle and Whirlwind of Rage. 2 CP on Strategic reserves + 1 for The Khan's Champion. -3 CP. HQ (235 pts -2 CP): Captain (1); JP+PF+CM. Warlord (The Imperium's Sword), Tempered by Wisdom (Hunter's instincts), Relic (The Armour of Indomnitus) - 125 pts -1 CP. Librarian in Terminator armour (1); FS+SB. Hero of the Chapter (Rites of War), Psychic powers (Ride the Winds, Spirits of Chogoris). - 110 pts -1 CP Troops (470 pts): Intersessor squad (5); 4x w/ABR + 1x w/AGL + PF on Srg - 115 pts Intersessor squad (5); 4x w/ABR + 1x w/AGL + PF on Srg - 115 pts. Tacical squad (5); MM + combi-plasma on Srg - 120 pts. Tacical squad (5); MM + combi-plasma on Srg - 120 pts. Elites (557 pts): Redemptor Dreadnought (1); OGC+MPI+IRP - 185 pts. Terminator squad (5); 2x w/CF + 2x w/PF + CML TH - 220 pts. Vanguard Veteran squad (5); 5x JP's + 3x w/SS+LC + 1x w/PF+LC + Srg. w/LC(Master-crafted)+TH - 152 pts. Fast Attack (380 pts): Outrider squad (3); - 135 pts. Outrider squad (3); - 135 pts. Attack Bike squad (2); 2x w/MM - 110 pts Heavy Support (230 pts): Eliminator squad (3); 3x w/BS - 90 pts Devastator squad (5); 4x w/GC + AC + Srg w/SB - 140 pts Dedicated Transports (125): Razorback (1); w/TLC + HKM - 125 pts. Total: 1997 + 7 CP. The idea is to have the Outrider squads, The attack bike squad, Characters, Terminators and Vanguard Veterans held in reserve and deployed when turn 2 starts. The Devastator squad is to be deployed in the Razorback in the first turn and the rest of the units are (hopefully) going to survive the first turns shootings...

So, I'm tweaking my army for 9th. Primaris only. Successor tactics using whirlwind of rage. And......reivers are starting to look pretty attractive in my pure infantry force. So far I have: - the objective holding force: 2 units of eliminators, 3 units of incursors, 2 units of intercessors - the turn 2 wave: 6 deep striking inceptors, 5 encircled aggressors, 3 encircled eradicators - the Flankers: 6 outriders, biker chaplain (who, if hes as expected, will be father pain when needed or popping to hit and to wiund auras for combat units). Got probably 220 points left over. 10 reivers with grav chutes being a turn 3 wave, with gene wrought might, the chaplain dishing out those reroll auras if hes still alive But reivers have been bad pretty much since day 1. Do I suck up the CP to get some extra force org slots for eradicators/plasma inceptors?

Dear all I would very much appreciate if you would consider the following army and say what you think of it in an tournement cause in don't know really what could be improved... ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - White Scars) [107 PL, 8CP, 1,999pts] ++ + Configuration + **Chapter Selection**: Hungry for Battle, Whirlwind of Rage, White Scars Successor Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Detachment CP + HQ + Captain [6 PL, -1CP, 125pts]: Hunter's Instincts, Jump Pack, Master-Crafted Weapon, Power fist, Storm shield, Stratagem: Tempered by Wisdom, The Imperium's Sword, Warlord Librarian in Terminator Armor [6 PL, -1CP, 105pts]: 3) Ride the Winds, 5) Spirits of Chogoris, Force stave, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter, The Imperium's Sword + Troops + Intercessor Squad [5 PL, -1CP, 110pts]: Auto Bolt Rifle, Veteran Intercessors . 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Intercessor Sergeant: Power fist Intercessor Squad [5 PL, -1CP, 110pts]: Auto Bolt Rifle, Veteran Intercessors . 4x Intercessor: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades . Intercessor Sergeant: Power fist Tactical Squad [5 PL, 93pts] . 3x Space Marine: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades . Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm bolter . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon Tactical Squad [5 PL, 93pts] . 3x Space Marine: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades . Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm bolter . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Missile launcher Tactical Squad [5 PL, 88pts] . 3x Space Marine: 3x Bolt pistol, 3x Boltgun, 3x Frag & Krak grenades . Space Marine Sergeant: Chainsword, Storm bolter . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Heavy bolter + Elites + Judiciar [4 PL, 85pts] Judiciar [4 PL, 85pts] Terminator Squad [18 PL, 228pts]: Teleport Homer . Terminator Sergeant: Power sword, Storm bolter . Terminator w/CF: Chainfist, Storm bolter . Terminator w/Heavy Weapon: Assault cannon, Power fist . 3x Terminator w/PF: 3x Power fist, 3x Storm bolter + Fast Attack + Outrider Squad [6 PL, 135pts]: Outrider Sgt . 2x Outrider: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 2x Twin Bolt rifle Outrider Squad [6 PL, 135pts]: Outrider Sgt . 2x Outrider: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 2x Twin Bolt rifle + Heavy Support + Devastator Squad [8 PL, 135pts] . Space Marine Sergeant: Boltgun . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Lascannon . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Lascannon . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon . Space Marine w/Heavy Weapon: Plasma cannon Eliminator Squad [5 PL, 90pts] . Eliminator Sergeant: Bolt sniper rifle, Camo cloak . Eliminator with Bolt Sniper: Camo cloak . Eliminator with Bolt Sniper: Camo cloak Eliminator Squad [5 PL, 120pts] . Eliminator Sergeant: Camo cloak, Las Fusil . Eliminator with Las Fusil: Camo cloak, Las Fusil . Eliminator with Las Fusil: Camo cloak, Las Fusil + Dedicated Transport + Impulsor [7 PL, 131pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Shield Dome Impulsor [7 PL, 131pts]: 2x Storm Bolters, Shield Dome ++ Total: [107 PL, 8CP, 1,999pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)

Hi all. Just wondering if any of you have had mileage out of a full squad of 5 Company Vets on Bikes (Legends)? For fluff reasons, I am thinking of running them with Power Sword & Plasma Pistol, backed up by a Company Champion on Bike (with WS Relic Sword) and Ancient on Bike with Eagle Banner. If able to get them all into combat, that gives 11 S5 AP-3 attacks from the Vets, plus 4 S6 AP-2 2D from the Champion, because of the Eagle Banner giving +1S to all within 6 inches. Then add on any Charge bonus attacks, etc. I know it seems an expensive investment (even more so if I take an Apothecary on Bike), but could it be a useful sledgehammer? The rest of my list would be 3*5 Scouts in Speeder Storms, JP Chaplain, JP Librarian in a Battalion, the above few paragraphs with a Chapter Master Khan on Bike (Wrath of Heavens relic), Chaplain on Bike as a Vanguard. Rounded off by a Khan on Bike, 2*8 Chainsword Bike Squad (each with Attack Bike) and a trio of double MM Speeders (backed up by Chapter Master Khan for full re-rolls). Let me know if you have any thoughts. I'll try and get the whole list down in Battlescribe at some stage.

Hello, Long time White Scars fan + player here, played them alot in 5th and am slowly returning to 40k with 9th edition. I think I've loved them since I was introduced to them in Index Astartes in WD140. Anyway, I bought the White Scars supplement and thought I'd try something else than what seems to be the go-to WS units - Bladeguard, assault intercessors, Kor'sarro etc. I got a strong feel for the fifth brotherhood, which focuses on Stormseers, Vanguard (assuming this means the Phobos units) and generally *hitting a target with everything at once*. So I thought I'd base the army around two Phobos Librarians and try to utilize their powers as much as possible. One using Temporal Corridor and Tenebrous Curse, one using Blasting Gale/Ride the Winds/Storm-wreathed. I like the idea of crowd control, mass medium range shooting, before moving in and finishing them off - standard mongol procedure, if you will. I got one lib, 2x5 assault bolter intercessors and 3 outriders so far and am pretty set for 6 plasma inceptors, the rest is up for discussion. Thoughts?

Hi folks, So I have a old SM army of first born that has not got much player in last few years. Thinking of whipping it out and playing as a shooting white scars army. Yes you read that right, shooting scars. The idea is to use the mobility of the army/outflank to complement the shooting elements. Then come turn 3 the army has natural combat ability. White Scars Battalion Detachment Captain in Terminator Armour - Power Sword, Storm Bolter, Warlord (Rites of War) Lieutenant - Power Maul, Chainsword Libarian - Force Staff, Psychic Fortress, Veil of Time Company Ancient - Banner of the Eagle 10 Sternguard - 10 Combi-Meltas 10 Sternguard - 10 Combi-Grav 5 Scouts - Boltguns 5 Scouts - Boltguns 5 Scouts - Boltguns 5 Tactical Marines - Flamer 5 Tactical Marines - Flamer 5 Tactical Marines - Missile Launcher 3 Bikes - Chainswords 5 Devastators - 4 Multi-Meltas,Cherub 5 Devastators - 4 Multi-Meltas,Cherub 5 Devastators - 4 Grav-cannons,Cherub Rhino

This list comes to 1835 points, which leaves some room to play around with. What do you think: ---HQ: 1 Primaris Chaplain on bike -Thinking Master of Snares. Relics + Litanies? 2 Phobos Librarians - one Obscuration, one Stormspeaking ---TROOPS: 2x10 Incursors with Haywire Mines 2x5 Intercessors with Auto Bolters, Powerfist ---FAST ATTACK: 6 Plasma Inceptors 2x3 Outriders ---HEAVY SUPPORT: 2x3 Eradicators Haven't properly played 40k since the beginning of 6th ed. So advice on Warlord traits, relics etc are much appreciated.

I think one of the most competitive builds for all space marine armies, but especially for White Scar Successors, will be something like the following: WS Successor Traits: -Hungry for Battle (+1 to charges) -Born Heroes (+1 to Hit in melee after charging) -10 Vanguard Vets, all with Storm Shield/Lightning Claw load out -5 Company Vets with 5 x Storm Shielf/Combi-Flamers load out -Chief Librarian with “Ride the Winds” and “Storm-Wreathed” powers, +1 to cast WL Trait -Ancient with “Banner of the Eagle” Relic -Chapter Champion, re-roll failed charges WL trait, “Burning Blade” relic -Apothecary -2 x Drop Pods Starting as early as turn 1, you can bring in both Drop Pods, clear away chaff/screens with the Company Vets shooting, use the Strat to make the Vanguard in the Assault Doctrine, cast “Ride the Winds” on the Vanguard (WC6, effectively WC5 with the Chief Librarian’s WL Trait), and then make a 6” charge (thanks to the Hungry for Battle trait and Ride the Winds power) that is re-rollable (thanks to the Chapter Champion’s WL Trait) and is taken on 3D6, remove the lowest D6 (thanks to the “Fierce Rivalries” Strat). If successful (which is very likely, given all the buffs above), the Vanguard then charge with 41 x S5 AP-3 Dmg2 attacks, all of which hit on a 2+ (from their Born Heroes trait) and re-roll to wound (thanks to Lightning Claws). Statistically, this should get you 34-35 hits and, depending on the target, 25 dead Power Armor Marines, 10-11 dead Gravis Marines, 10-11 dead TDA Marines, 30-31 dead Ork Boyz, 2 dead T7/T8 3+ save equivalent vehicles (i.e. Rhinos, Leman Russes, Fire Prisms, Hammerheads, Repulsors, etc.), or 28-29 unsaved wounds on an Imperial Knight. Even better, if the enemy does survive to strike back (or shoot back), then you have 20 x T4 Wounds, all protected by a 2+/4++, a 6+++ FNP (from the Apothecary), and the ability to both heal a wounded Vanguard Veteran up to full wounds and revive a dead Vanguard Veteran the next turn (again, from the Apothecary). Future turns, rinse and repeat with this battle group into the enemy lines (i.e. shoot to clear a path with the Company Veterans, charge with the Vanguard and the Champion, support with the Librarian, Ancient, and Apothecary).

Finally got my hands on the codex to point up a list I've had in mind for a while as I've got to grips with 9th. White Scars Battalion Primaris Chaplain on bike - master of sanctity, wise orator Khan on bike Primaris librarian - ride the winds, spirits of chogoris 5 incursors 5 incursors 5 incursors 5 aggressors 5 bladeguard Primaris Apothecary - chief apothecary, selfless healer 5 inceptors - plasma 3 outriders 3 outriders 3 eradicators 3 eradicators Chaplain pairs with outriders for reroll hits and wounds on their silly number of attacks. Khan runs with plasmaceptors for reroll 1s on overcharge. Scars having a 1 CP retreat and shoot strat for them is especially useful. These and the outriders hit flanks. Apothecary with aggressors because FNP and rez. They'll push midfield. Bladeguard with librarian. Turn 2 on they're moving 9 inches minimum with +2 to charge. Again, going up the middle, unless they encircle against an opponent with a heavy backfield. Eradicators have good threat range from advance and charge but can be protected with encircle. Secondaries: Engage on all fronts is a solid 10 points for me. Deploy scramblers or raise banners depends on opponent. The new progressive marine secondary is something I'll try but falling back to charge is kinda a thing here, which will cost me 1 VP per round. While we stand we fight is Khan, chaplain and apothecary. Questions for the fraters: - chaplain litany choice is completely open thanks to base litany and chapter litany. Mantra of strength is a good toolbox choice for when he wants to hulk out. What about the second? Canticle of hate is attractive because of the vox espiritum changes. Could tag a fair few units with that +2 charge bubble. Should I be looking at anything else? - warlord traits. At minimum I've got 2 characters with traits, so I'm spending 1CP. I could take another because on the new hero of the chapter. Chogoriann storm, master rider and master of snares are all attractive on the Khan. Is it worth it? - relics. Benediction of fury on the chaplain is obvious, but as highlighted, vox espritum now affects litanies and 9 inch auras are massive. Spending CP for other relics - wrath of heavens on the Khan, mantle of the stormseer on the librarian, plume of the plainsrunner on the apothecary - im more than willing to drop the 2CP for 3 relic selections where am i going to get my best bang for buck? - there's 90 points left in this list. I can neatly drop in a unit of eliminators and im quite character heavy for the assassinate secondary, but is there anything else I could look at? Incursors to heavy intercessors is 45 points (though jury's out on them for me), 2 more eradicators is 80 points and im relying on them to really do some work. Chief librarian upgrade so he can join in the trait and relic game maybe. I'm open to opinions - even just adding the 6th aggressor and inceptor for combat squad potential, or turning the 3 incursor units into 20 autobolter intercessors

Ok so after a lot of back and forth and soul searching I have finally decided on a name for my brother hood and it’s leader Altan Khan. So here’s how my basket looks at the moment from Fw 6 scitmar jetbikes 2 kyaghan assault speeders 1 javelin speeder with las cannons 1 sicaran battle tank I already have 10 tactical marines in two rhinos 5 cataphracti terminators What do you guys think if this as a start ?