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Hey all, Need a little help with a small Zone Mortalis list im making, as part of a campaign coming up in a few months. The ZM list needs to contain a non-named character HQ that is also present in the other games (3k pts, 1500 pts etc. of the same campaign) so i need to have one eye on survivability of those games too. Any suggestions or advice is greatly appreciated! Rite of War - Pride of the Legion - HQ Praetor w. AA, Iron Halo, Paragon Blade, Melta Bombs, Digi lasers, power dagger (175)- Troops 6 Tartaros Terminators ( w. 4x Combi bolters, 1x Heavy Flamer, 2 x PW (axe?), 2 x Power Fist, 1 x Chainfist. Serg w. Combi Melta, chainfist, power dagger, venom sphere hareness (267)9 Vet Tacs w. Vexilla, plas gun. Serg w. AA, Power fist, dower dagger (203)(Sniper) 8 Vet Tacs w. Vexilla, plas gun. Serg w. AA, Power fist, dower dagger (191)(Sniper) - Elites Cortus Contemptor - Kheres Assault Cannon, close comabt weapon w. Heavy Flamer (160)-Total = 996 pts Not sure whether i need to hit the 1000pts mark to unlock the Praetor? Get the feeling im missing something or could improve/tweak something to make it more interesting, but not sure.

Hi all, I haven't played in an age and list-building was never my strong suit, so I'd really appreciate a bit of help with my Fist-list. I should mention: Unit choices are decided in part based on what I enjoy the look of and what I think I'd enjoy painting - I don't need this to be top-tier, but I'd like to be able to do a pickup game without being utterly destroyed, and your comments would be much appreciated! This being said, there's nothing I'm absolutely wedded to, other than really wanting to include the termie squad in cataphractii and the Consul Champion and Banner bearer from the command squad. I've got the majority of the models in this list already, but I'm absolutely not opposed to getting more plastic, as both my bank account and bits box can attest. Zone Mortalis, 1500 points - HQ [460pts] - Legion Champion (Consul) [110pts]: Artificer Armour , Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs, Power Sword Praetor, Legion [350pts]: Artificer Armour, Digital Lasers, Grenade Harness, Iron Halo, Paragon Blade, Plasma Pistol Command Squad, Legion [150pts]: Melta BombsSpace Marine Chosen: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Combat Shield, Power Fist Space Marine Chosen: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Combat Shield, Power Fist Standard Bearer: Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon - Elites [240pts] - Apothecarion Detachment [50pts] . Apothecary: Augury Scanner, Chainsword/Combat Blade, Power Armor Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [190pts] . Contemptor Dreadnought, Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon, Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon - Troops [640pts] - Tactical Squad [155pts]: 9x Tactical Space Marines . Additional Wargear: Additional Chainswords/Combat Blades, Bolters, Vexilla . Tactical Sergeant: Bolter, Chainsword/Combat Blade Terminator Squad [255pts] - Cataphractii Armour . Terminator Sergeant: Pair of Lightning Claws . Terminator: Pair of Lightning Claws . Terminator: Pair of Lightning Claws . Terminator: Pair of Lightning Claws . Terminator: Chainfist, Heavy Flamer Veteran Tactical Squad [230pts] - Veteran Tactics: Marksmen . Veteran Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Fist . Veteran Space Marine W/ Special Weapon: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Heavy Bolter and Suspensor Web . Veteran Space Marine W/ Special Weapon: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Plasma gun . Veteran Space Marine: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Vexilla, Power Sword . 6 Veteran Space Marines: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword - Heavy Support [160pts]- Heavy Support Squad [160pts]: . 5 Autocannons Rite of War: Pride of the Legion The plan is to grind the opponent down with the HSS and the Marksmen Vets, try to position the Tacticals to pull of a rapid-fire Fury of the Legion with that lovely BS5, and let the Termies and Command Squad handle counter-assaults. Apothecary will slot into the Command Squad to give them a bit of resilience, and the dread goes hunting for either other walkers or smallish infantry blobs, where the Kheres or the DCCW can really hurt. I'm positive there's holes in that plan large enough to drive a Land Raider through, so I'd love to hear your thoughts.