Psythu Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Hi there! Been lurking around for a while, and now I've got something to post. Thoughts on these are welcome, I'm new to sculpting so tips would be useful ;) http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6546/squadmalleowip003forumsje9.jpg http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2166/squadmalleowip004forumsoj6.jpg http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9869/squadmalleowip001forumsuy9.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Toddius Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I think the terminators themselves apart from the head choice look really great. The scales are cool. It be interesting to see where you add flames or the badge to the model. The poses are well done also. As a theme are the termies actual salimanders as in a mutant or chaos sallies? Or are the heads sallie helmets shaped like salimanders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smelly_squig Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 i think they look realy good the heads im not to sure about at first i thought its a helmet but i think the ones with there mouths open dont look like helmets as for the sculpting i cant see much wrong with it i also like the bases the look simple but cool cant wait to see them painted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 nice miniatures but not sure about the ead,they seem more mutant to me than space marine,maybe try to mkae them more helm like,possibly flatterning their mounts to look like armor?i remember when i made some concept sketches about dragon like helmets based opu average marines helmet if you want i'll search them for you:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psythu Posted June 13, 2007 Author Share Posted June 13, 2007 nice miniatures but not sure about the ead,they seem more mutant to me than space marine,maybe try to mkae them more helm like,possibly flatterning their mounts to look like armor?i remember when i made some concept sketches about dragon like helmets based opu average marines helmet if you want i'll search them for you:) That sounds good, I'm open to ways of improving the heads (since it's the bit no-one so far has liked :devil: ). As for the mouths, I'm sure the Salamanders' famous expert artificers could find a way of making opening-mouth helmets :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teutogen Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I hold the same view as everyone else whos posted. Scales: awesome heads: lame Why don't you try addind spiked crests to normal terminator helmets? Subtle is better I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron father Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I actually like the heads. It makes them look scarier, more foreboding, which is something that I think loyalist marines have been lacking recently. Plus, you've obviously spent a lot of money or effort to acquire them, so you may as well keep them. What I think might help you would be to decide whether these are regular helmets crafted to look like drakes' heads, or trophy heads being worn as helmets. Then, add some details to support whichever option you choose. If they're dragon shaped helmets, add some flat armor panels, lense,s wires, etc. If they're severed lizard heads, do something to indicated that, like adding straps to hold them in place, ragged edges at the neck, or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendrik Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 http://groups.msn.com/KnightPenitent/shoeb...&PhotoID=32 this could work,the upper one is based upon an mk6 beakie helmet,while the lower one is based upon the normal mk 7 one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oknights Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 I have to agree with everyone else, the Termies look awesome except for the head. If you scuplt some metal type plates and wires on them, they would look more like helmets. I would give that a try. Other than that you are doing an awesome job. I can't wait to see them painted. :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smelly_squig Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 i dont think all the heads need changing i like the heads it just doesnt look right with the mouth open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom Hero Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 I like the heads also. I think that if you allow for a little additional material to the heads you can obtain a great helmet lokk upon painting. Maybe it's as simple as adding a comms array th the side or something like that. I have a slamader marine in my deathwatch thati used a beakie head and the snout of an old lizardman tocreate his helmet. I think to allow more character to the Salamnders Chapter the use of Lizardman bits is very useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Clock Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 Instead of lizard heads, which are relatively difficult to pull off convincingly, try using the heads on the hammers. Also, to reinforce the fact that the heads are HELMETS, panting them in metallics really helps. The addition of some 'techy' element to them would also help a great deal. Cheers, The Good Doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordmuffin Posted June 24, 2007 Share Posted June 24, 2007 what you could try, if you have access to any chaos vehicle sprues, the lascannon muzzle replacements. I have a few of those on models throughout my berzerker army and because they are alot cleaner with a few more tech elements they come off looking much more like helmets than demon heads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psythu Posted September 24, 2007 Author Share Posted September 24, 2007 Right, I've finally started painting these fellas. One's almost complete now, I'd love some feedback on the colour scheme I eventually chose. He needs some touching up (especially on the head), so still PIP for now. http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/8075/squadmalleopipmontagefoaw1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavulg Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 When it comes time to paint the eyes, don't forget to paint them like space marine lenses. I like how it looks so far. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Engelhardt Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 I like them, but I would change the colour of the lizard-skin; into a light to semi-dark brown maybe ? I think Bestial Brown with a highlight of Vomit Brown would do the job. Then you'll have some more contrast in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prtyjedi Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 I have to say, that as a former Lizardmen player, I love the heads. Sure, they're a bit over the top, but the ones with closed mouths work fine. And yes, I agree with Engelhardt on the changing, though not as much one the colour suggestions. I can say more after it's been "touched up" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starks333 Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 i really think a different colour skin tone would benefit these guys, the green just steals from it...if you mix some red into the green for the skin base colour thatd be very nice i would think Starks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 I recommend doing the scaled shoulderpad in another color as well. There is so much green on these guys that they end up looking a bit on the plain side. You could vary the scales for each guy (as part of becoming FireDrake is killing a drake) or even set them to a specific battles color scheme. I did this for a Chaplain and a Squad leader who fought in the Badab War (yellow and black being the Sals colors during that particular incident): http://www.duckblindminiatures.com/images/sals/salchap1-2.jpg http://www.duckblindminiatures.com/images/sals/salat1-1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girathon Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 I really like the green you have for your sallies Psythu. My only problem is that I think that there is too much of it. To make the model more appealing I would reccoment painting the scaley bits either black, or black with some orange and red ones thrown in in a symetric way. I just think it would go a long way in breaking the model up a bit. Cheers, Girathon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psythu Posted September 24, 2007 Author Share Posted September 24, 2007 Thanks a lot for the comments, they've been very helpful. I really liked the "red head" idea, it hasn't photographed all that great but it looks awesome in real life. I tried out the black scales too, but in the end I feld the green ones looked better. May change my mind once I've painted more of the squad though. Here's one finished at last; I did try the "visor" effect on the eyes but they're just too tiny! Marine eyes are far easier to paint :blink: http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3600/squadmalleopipmontage2fcq0.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Gideon Emitt Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 I really like them they are cool One thing though when they charge do you shout "IT'S CLOBBERING TIME!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starks333 Posted September 24, 2007 Share Posted September 24, 2007 nicely done, im glad you liked the addition of red, maybe do the same thing with the scales? just to tone down the bright green? im out of ideas otherwise, looks good however Starks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psythu Posted September 27, 2007 Author Share Posted September 27, 2007 Wow, this thread just shot off to page 2. Some sort of post games day activity flurry or something :confused: Anyhoo, content bump! http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1025/squadmalleopipmontage3fmn2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannus Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 They are coming along quite nicely, Psythu. I would try to avoid using "natural" colors on the lizard heads so that they look more like helmets than mutants. How about metalic gold teeth or scales. The more natural you make them look, the less like helmets they appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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