Walter Payton Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 If the Emperor planned the heresy, which was orchestrated (planned and orchestrated are diffferent things), by Chaos, and , importantly Tzeentch. Therefore, if we hold this view to be true, it means that the Emperor outsmarted Tzeentch. I just don't see it.... @Forgemann. That whole event is orchestrated by the Chaos Powers. Horus saw what they wanted him to see. I think that is just a fabrication to make Horus feel that the Emperor is a betrayer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/133053-was-the-emperor-in-on-it/page/4/#findComment-2250248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt. Lysander Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 It is most likely possible that is the case. The powers of Chaos managed to manipulate Horus' feelings and anger, to use them for their own cause. I do think that is just what Horus wanted to believe, in order to justify his betrayal. And I don't think the Emperor outsmarted Tzeentch... After reading a few CSM novels, the HH may have just been entertainment for the Chaos Gods, in order to appease them. I think this comes from one of the short stories in Heroes of the Space Marines: 'It may have delighted the gods to have their champions succeed in so much, then struck down in the face of victory.' Edit: Coherency. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/133053-was-the-emperor-in-on-it/page/4/#findComment-2251759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space_Moron Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Premonition: The Emperor was the greatest human psychic. He probably saw the heresy in a vision. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/133053-was-the-emperor-in-on-it/page/4/#findComment-2265268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltimateJake Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Premonition: The Emperor was the greatest human psychic. He probably saw the heresy in a vision. IIRC he had his visions blocked by the Chaos Gods so he wouldn't see them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/133053-was-the-emperor-in-on-it/page/4/#findComment-2265273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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