Excretos Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 I've always collected Chaos - in 40k, WFB, Bloodbowl, Epic, Mordheim, Necromunda... The imagery is fantastic along with the fluff - the lure of damnation being a consistent theme throughout human history. I am Nurgle man (although I've also got Word Bearers) - just can't get over the theme of a plague ridden force, reflecting the despair and defeat that confronts the Imperium. I've played with virtually every force in 40k and WFB, but always come back to Papa Nurgle and the lure of Chaos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1616519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Stalker Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 i just like daemonic stuff and preternaturaly fast close combat superhumans ... choice was obvious. at first i played black legion [about a month], then i switched to night lords after reading the fluff [the fastest chaos army without even twisted concept of morality] ... year after year i learn more, to come into conclusion, that DIY chapter is my way. and i do not want to change my army by any means :> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1616536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaptain Von Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 Chaos were the big release when I started gaming back in '95; the second edition Codex was just out, and my early White Dwarfs were full of Noise Marines, Plague Marines, plastic Bikes (isn't it about time there was a new Chaos Bike?) and Night Lords. I bought the book - I bought most of the Codices back then - and was enthralled. The Chaos Space Marines were unrepentant villains, and each Legion seemed cast as a different type - the religious zealot, the cruel space pirate, the sorcerer in the tower, the unfortunate plague victim who just needed strength to carry on... Of course, I played Orks. They were in the boxed set. People kept giving me theirs. But when third edition 40K rolled around I decided to do a new army... and I'd always liked the look of those Night Lords. I was young, and angsty, and nihilistic butchers filled with contempt seemed like an interesting archetype at the time. I'd also liked the Battle for Purgatory fiction in that second edition Codex. Night Lords it was, with Berzerkers to go. Stopped gaming for a while. When I came back, I leapt to the Chaos Space Marines, and to the Word Bearers. Part of it was the Defiler - lovely model, that - and the metal daemons. Part of it was the idea of actually worshipping some external force - something quite alien to me at the time (still is, really). Part of it was their shame and regret about being cast aside by the Emperor, as they saw it - they, more so than many of the Legions, seemed to embody that aspect of the Chaos Marine character that's essentially Paradise Lost in space; the hubris of a firstborn son, the opportunity to rebel, the near success and the long, smouldering resentment of the centuries. Part of it was that funky colour scheme. I have grown since then. I studied literature and religion, read a lot of Michael Moorcock and H.P. Lovecraft, discovered chaos magick and anarchism. Warhammer Chaos is a puerile reflection of the philosophies and ideas I'd found, but they were there; they were apparent in the earliest background (once I'd read Slaves to Darkness) and they could be extrapolated even from the diluted adolescent fantasy that is the Chaos Space Marine bumpf. There was a common thread running through my chaos and their Chaos, a parable of pride and the will exerted upon reality, of the desperate Faustian pacts with things you don't entirely believe in, with the longing to be one's own master and the futility of exchanging one set of chains for another. Plus Chaos inspire the best fiction. I've just read Seven Views of Uhlguth's Passing by Matthew Farrer (it's in that new Planetkill book), and it's more challenging and interesting and evocative and just plain better written than a lot of Serious Fiction I can think of. That helps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1616629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosKen60 Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 The Lure of Chaos; Well I started way back in the Rouge Trader Days while I was in the US Navy, my 1st Army was Space Marines, I called them the Emperor’s Spartans – I bought two of the old plastic box sets of Marines and two boxes of Orks, and would let one of my shipmates play the orks – I still have one of my RT Book (which I got Andy Chambers to sign before he left) but not the figs :D . It was a lot of fun, but I got married for the 1st time, and to sell of some of my gaming stuff – AD&D, Champions, but I kept my RT book, and also my WDs that I had at the time to read. While looking at the RT book I saw the picture of Marine Renegades, and I loved the idea – so after my divorce I went down to a gaming store in Norfolk VA to start back up in the game. And learned that 2nd edition was out, and sitting there next to the box set was the “JUST RELEASED” Chaos Codex – I saw Abbadon standing there in all his glory, and I knew the four Gods had called me back. I have been playing Chaos since then, and always undivided – I have sold some of my armies in the past to help with bills – BUT I have always come back. Now at 48yrs old, I am the old man player, my fav. Thing to do is getting new players into this great hobby of ours. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1617388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelos Dante Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 I just love the variety of the entire chaos aspect, you can create whatever you want however you want, and i love the fluff of chaos with a wealth of background that you can take and use or create your own Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1617746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ju'kosian Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Simple, I thought the thousand sons models looked very cool, So I bought them.. I only bought my codex afterwards getting to know the whole horus heresy history and such... I liked the background and the whole bunch of options so I got more chaos marines and cult armies.. Sadly the bunch of options is somewhat smaller these days.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1618182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliphas Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 First of all the Lore (Horus Heresy) drew me in and the Dawn of War - Dark Crusade. I loved Eliphas the Inheritor. It would be obvious I chose the Word Bearers........ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1618213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maladon Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 THe guitar weilding noise marines was it for me.... that and the fluff of the time for khorne before the crap mindless slaughter machine came into being.... worst fluff evar! Though my first real army in 2nd edtion was(wait for it) Tyranids! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1618237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cohort Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 THe guitar weilding noise marines was it for me.... that and the fluff of the time for khorne before the crap mindless slaughter machine came into being.... worst fluff evar! Though my first real army in 2nd edtion was(wait for it) Tyranids! Mine was 'nid too. I just loved the minis. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1618253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Aristeo Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 I think it was the 2nd Edition Chaos Codex. I remember being amazed by what I saw in there. I would go to the hobby store as often as I could to sneak a peek at it until I saved up enough money to buy it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1618306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
khairney Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 easy. kiss... the band... after i saw their face paint, i realised that there was nothing pure or good in the world.... nah, iv always been interested in the extremities of human nature, our war like tendencies, unrealistic hopes and aspirations, excess and pleasure seeking. never been to tickled by disease though... the other 3 gods symbalise basic instincts in man, but iv never met someone saying "yeah! hell yeah! i have the flu!" thats a very dumbed down statement, but i hope you see what i mean. i guess another factor would be my morbid curiosity of the occult, especially religeons and their power to brainwash even the most strong minded of people ( sorry if theres brainwashed cult worshippers reading this). im not sure if i should be worried about this, but another reason is that i can easily imagine how the primarchs felt as they turned to chaos, each one has a very plausale reason for turning thir back on the corpse god. apart from alpharius (? cant remember how to spell his name?) well maybe he does... im not sure... all i know is that alpha legion really twist my titties. and liber chaotica was a boner-inspiring read...although it did not actualy leave me aroused, it is fantastically written. im very drunk and im going to bed now iv had my speech. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1618861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad News Pat Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 I started with IG then moved to Blood Angels and Imperial Fist. But I never really identified with any of the characters. I found some fluff about Konrad Curze/ The Night Haunter, and related to him in some way that i'm not to totaly sure about. That, and I like Berzerkers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1618901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron-Daemon Forge Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Ahh what lure me to the path of chaos. If anything it conversion & I like the image Chaos marines had over Imperial along with the background. There the ubber bad guys who show no mercy, to fight a Chaos Marine is pretty much delying your death until there chainsword gose through you. Just when I started the hobby it was mainly Ultramarine I had because that what I though they where to be painted. Then came White Dwarf 202 UK, there was a article talking about conversion showing John Blanche drawing & then some models from some of the HQ staff from Andy Chamber to John Blanche own models. After that I set about converted my Ultra to Black Legion. Time went on, my conversion have alway been my main strenght. Went from Black Legion (on 4th version now), Iron Warriors (now on 3rd version), builted a Bezerker army under codex 3.5 out my bit box (can do this 3 more times) & finial bought a Death Guard army from a good friend of mine. But favrout of all armies has alway been my Iron Warriors as you lot can tell. Just like the idea of seige alway been a favrout side of history warfare for me, I like Obliterators use to convert tons when they where just brough into the world of 40k after seeing my best friend force... new once came out. Also my Iron Warriors see a lot on the tournament, fought a few well know people for exsample Chrsitain Bryne from the White Dwarf team & his might Black Legion force. Still to this day I'm useing my Iron Warriors with a new tournament season, new rules, new codex... there the only once for the job & no other armies I collected has felt the same while gaming. Also most importantly new conversion, as said conversion alway been my strenght Just chaos is the army for me with the amount of conversion they offer. As Che who ran Meduca V said, the chaos gods favour me :wub: So my Iw are on the war path for 40k Radio tournament, UK GT Heat 1 & my gaming club Rapided fire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1619644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mabrothrax Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Like many, I was first exposed to Chaos (and GW) through the power of the Realms of Chaos books. They were new back then and my school friends and I were utterly absorbed. We began playing (fantasy) Chaos warbands against each other. Mine was led by a Chaos dwarf with a scorpion's tail if I remember correctly, oh and I was the envy of all the warbands for rolling up a cockatrice as a follower. Unfortunately it was 'blessed' with both the pointed and pin head and spent most games doing a great deal of nothing. The boxed 40k appeared and I began playing Ultramarines but quickly returned to the Ruinoous powers when the 2nd Ed Chaos codex appeared. It was something of a struggle to collect and play a decent Chaos army in the 90s as the models available were seemingly random and for the most part comically awful (remeber the skull headed noise marines? Yuk!). Thankfully, now the models live up to the dark brooding background that inspired me nearly 20 years ago! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1620159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmndr Sarpedon Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 I began with Ultramarines, but began to turn to the dark side as I read the books; the Soul Drinker novels scored my soul for the Gods. My men are renagades, hating the Imperium and not worshiping the Emperor, but simply agreeing on his ideas and morals. To me it doesn't matter if the Emperor is dead, his ideas live on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1620222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 The Horus Heresy - more specific Horus and His legion. They are irrovoccably damned for all eternity, but they thrive. Going from one of the smallest (numerically) to the most powerful legion in the eye. Their color scheme rules, Horus was awesome. They are indeed returned. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1622093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dammeron Posted July 8, 2008 Author Share Posted July 8, 2008 THe guitar weilding noise marines was it for me.... that and the fluff of the time for khorne before the crap mindless slaughter machine came into being.... worst fluff evar! Though my first real army in 2nd edtion was(wait for it) Tyranids! I have to admit, I was terribly tempted by the Tyranids back in Second Ed. They really were one of those absolute "Killer Armies" that everyone feared to face. I still really like the old Hive Tyrant models too (with the more anthropomorphic face). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1622106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I had a very large marine army that I converted to BA. Half my figures became useless (terminators mostly which didn't fit into my BA style), and rather than make a second loyal marine army I decided to make them chaos. I went with Tzeentch mostly to make it so my loyal marines get in close combat and beat you up. My chaos guys hang back and shoot the heck out of you. Being the bad guys is fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1622115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Evar Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 I liked chaos because of the story. Just the tragic nature of their fall and excesses. Also the fact that CSM's are more "human" than the loyalists because they have ego's, pride, competitiveness, rage, lust ect. I was drawn to the BL because of their paint scheme and story. Cults wise I was initaly into khorne because the whole warrior ethos was awsome, but then I preffered slannesh when I started to look at the deeper meanings of being dedicated to that paticular power. Even in my loyalist choices have chaotic undertones- the IF and how they like to go down in a blaze of glory taking everything down with them. DA and their fall- in my eyes they are beyond redemption. Once a chaos player forevermore. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1624429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
styx Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 I started with Iron Warriors. As my first army, everyone was playing the "good guys" when I started, Eldar, Marines, etc...so I said, we need some evil on the table. This was back in the days of 2nd.... The Iron Warriors fluff, background, simple to paint....was appealing...no demons, lots of guns, with a tragic story of falling from grace. Later, i wanted something more for my Chaos legions, so I went Word Bearer after a debate to Alpha Legion. I like the fluff even more, the conversions I did gave me so many options and also gave me fluff ot build lists by...oh, heavy on the demons, no vehicles for example because the Dark Appostale forsaw that using vehicles as a bad omen for that battle.....the paint job was simple but allowed me to make some VERY nice details still in a good blend. I've also since moved on towards 1000 Sons, Nurgle and Khorne. I was building them for 3rd, now they are going to play in a "mixed bag" for the 4th Ed Chaos Book in 5th...I loved the Death Guard and 1000 Sons fluff, the fall of the Sons was to me the most tragic of all the legions as they actually TRIED to HELP the Emperor. Nurgle is great to convert along with the Sons again. Khorne, I just like their look and potential.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1624488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordus Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Well, when I first joined, I actually started with WHFB, and got me some chaos warriors. I was enthralled by the vast gothic mythos and the wide pantheon of mortals, beasts and Daemons. When I discovered 40k, and discovered an awesome evocative universe, with more background than our own planet earth, I became torn, and abandoned the lure of chaos for a succession of armies, nids, orcs, vampire counts... But evil never dies. Every time I looked at a chaos mini my pulse quickened. They excited more than other armies, they were gothicky daemonic awesome in power armour...soon I fell back to chaos, havent looked back since. With the release of Renegade Militia and their options for being mixed with CSM and Daemons, it opened up again that huge selection of monsters, madmen and daemons to choose from. I felt as a chaos lord, choosing what I wished. I thoroughly enjoy painting Chaos minis, and feel with the new FW support the only way forward is chaos. Long live FW and the taint of Chaos! ;) PS> No idea what the hell the smily is...but I live him and his lil' tome of doom. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1624722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Morgrim Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Always been drawn to chaos in both Fantasy and 40k....in 40k i see the imperium as the truly evil ones.....a bunch of sociopathic cretins worshipping a dead god with prejudice and fear.........I also have always loved the look of Chaos Sorcerers and alot of the illustrations and fluff around the Thousand Sons, the one i dislike about chaos is the messy mutations so Ahriman and his boys interested me.....plus who doesnt like the so called baddies? I mean Darth Vader is really a Chaos Sorcerer Lord! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1625160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodecimo Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Chaos is the only army that can interest me on its own, whenever I look at miniatures from another army, no matter how cool they are, I think of them as nothing more than cool allies for my Chaos army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1625185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luy22 Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Though I have yet to start my Chaos )prolly Thousand Sons) army, I like Chaos because they're the vikings. I started out as Imperium/Empire. I always saw that Chaos was really evil and a yucky bad guy. Then I started getting into Viking mythology and what not and my eyes were opened... I like Tzeentch the most because they seem the less deformed... I also found copies of the RoC and SoD books. I read through em cover to cover. My GOD they're awesome!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1625201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roultox Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Im not a complex person to please. I set things into categories of like, dislike, and neutral to. So with that frame of thought you can understand when I say, I just like the idea that people can make up their own story and be a part of the history, in their own little way. being able to say "This piece of warhammer history belongs to me in this spot, and my forces started this way, and died that way, and this is the fame/infame they aquired during their course". That is what hooked me when I got past the simple likes of just having a good army to play with. Eventually I got bored, and started to make up my own forces, now I wont touch normal 40k fluff, and often diminish the choices I have drasticly (and legally) playable armies become pieces of art before they are painted. I fail to mention I convert most of my game models, some minorly, others have a barely recognizable torso while its surrounded by wires, and cut plastic. I fiddle with lots of ideas, thats what keeps me interested. The ability to follow through with the good ideas that stick with me after much thought into playtyle, background writing and fun, I then whip out the wallet and buy what I need to make them into my imagination. Just wish I had more time to delve into it without all the other ideas taking up time in my spare time. I'll get around to it, eventually. -Chaos 40k player, at my peak in 3rd edition I could field 16k's worth without any upgrades or characters. They all got "chopped up" for conversion projects and now is less than 9k playable models. (I might scrape 12k if I put bases on the models laying around, go figure :D ) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/139572-the-lure-of-chaos/page/2/#findComment-1625310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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