Yukka Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Yesterday I played for the first time with some decent scenery. At one point there was a large house which had my Plague marines on one side, and my friends marines on the other. I moved my marines horizontally to get into LOS to shoot. This was when we came a little unstuck. It feels like only 4 of his marines are actually visible to my Plague marines but I couldnt find anywhere that said that made any difference apart from awarding cover saves. Since Marines have such high armor that doesnt make any difference. In the end i just had all my shots and he had to make saves and take off models per wound as if the entire unit was visible Was this correct? I mean, it would make more sense if I took all the shots but since only 4 of his marines are actually visible, a maximum of 4 could be removed, but the rulebook doesnt seem to deal with this unless I have completely missed it (could have happened). I have shown this below. Hopefully it makes sense. Ignore the dots - had to put them in to get round the autoformatting. H = House M = Marine P = Plague Marine .............................M M M M M M M M M M .............................M M M M HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ................................................P P P P P ................................................P P P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borys Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 I believe it works this way: ALL Plague Marines can see at least one SM model, and thus are allowed to fire; The SM player can assign hits to ANY models, including those out of sight, who would get a 4+ Cover Save So I believe you played correctly. Check page 24. Borys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukka Posted July 26, 2008 Author Share Posted July 26, 2008 its such a wierd rule isnt it. you wouldnt let someone shoot directly through the building would you? or would you... but one marine with his foot out means that an entire unit hidden can take wounds, with a cover save that is less than their armor save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitorPhred Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Welcome to 5th Edition, you can now kill ten men by shooting one man ten times. You played it correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidoneus Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Here's a similar question. What happens with cover saves? I know the marines in Yukka's example couldn't use 'em, but what if he'd been shot with AP2 weapons, or if the marines were instead gaunts or something? Let's say the closest enemy model is completely out of cover and visible. Then, there's a model hiding behind cover, but still visible. Then there are some more completely hidden behind cover, with no line-of-sight from the firers. How do you award cover saves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitorPhred Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 The marines in his example would all be eligible for cover against plasma guns. (Who has plague marines without plasma guns?) Models that are completely out of LOS to the firers count toward the 'in cover' tally for purposes of figuring out if the target unit it 50% in cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidoneus Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 Models that are completely out of LOS to the firers count toward the 'in cover' tally for purposes of figuring out if the target unit it 50% in cover. Sweet, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukka Posted July 27, 2008 Author Share Posted July 27, 2008 Welcome to 5th Edition, you can now kill ten men by shooting one man ten times. You played it correctly. thats a signature right there :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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