legio daemonis Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 So, im probably going to pick up some chaos bikers instead of raptors because who doesnt love being able to move shoot(even with rapid fire!!) and assault in the same turn? thats what the 5th ed rule book says bikers can do anyway. but looking through the 5th ed i couldnt find the assault range for bikes. so some clearing up on that and/or reasons why i should take 5 not so adavantageous imho raptors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roultox Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 They assault the normal 6" unless specified otherwise. Like beasts/extra distance etc. I suggest bikes exceeding 6 models with icon of nurgle or tzeentch, powerfist champ and 1 melta and 1 flamer or two flamers. T6 or 2+inv turbo boost save rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eetion Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Actually no... Turbo grants a cover save now. So no more 2+ Invul saves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mek GrabNutz Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 i was thinking of doing a squad of 3 bikers, 2 with meltaguns, and an asp. champ with power fist and combi-melta. im not sure wether it would be any good, but it would be very mobile, and seeing as i only realy play 1000 point games, i dont think ide run into any land raiders. would this be any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 i was thinking of doing a squad of 3 bikers, 2 with meltaguns, and an asp. champ with power fist and combi-melta. im not sure wether it would be any good, but it would be very mobile, and seeing as i only realy play 1000 point games, i dont think ide run into any land raiders. would this be any good? A tad expensive for what they can do. You're looking at a unit of 3 which cost close to 200pts which will easily be shredded in both CC and shooting. At that price you are better off looking at a Raptor squad with 2 Meltas, or 2 Oblits, or a Dakka Pred. My 2 Kraks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 first of all neither the 5th edition nor the chaos dex is made for playing 1k pts games . second thing is no bikers are not a good unit . even in 1k pts games a lot of armies are going to have enough low ap weapons to bring them down fast [or the hth counter units to do the same ]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamjar Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 I'd drop the aspiring champion from the unit, he's just too expensive for a 3 man unit. 2 meltaguns on 3 bikes, is enough imho, as its just over 100 points similar to most vehicles they will target. I love my biker units, turboboost is a very powerful rule and there shooting capabilities are often overlooked. Also lords on bikes with daemon weapons is the only way to go, highest movement speed is a must for combat characters. Used correctly they can be a powerful unit just they need support due to there small size. I tried the Large biker formation and it never performed the magic for me, and usually chosen or terminators were a lot more powerfull when it came to actual damage. Bikes and daemons are a good combo too, as it gives them numerical support which is something they often lack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mek GrabNutz Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 so what should i do then? ide like a mobile force, because it fits in with the fluff im writing for my renegades. should i just go with a lasscannon armed pred? or should lascannon armed havoks? or firebase dread, or deffiler... arghh... too many choices... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 For a mobile force? Raptoooooooooors, no AC, just specials and an icon, cheap and efficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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