corncob Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 does this rule take effect before the +1 modifier for it being opened top is added. For example if my opponent roles a two on the vehicle damage chart does the penitent engine treat the role as a three or is it ignored before the modifier takes effect. I hope I worded that clearly Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146495-penitent-engine-rampage-rule/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toogeloo Posted September 19, 2008 Share Posted September 19, 2008 All modifiers are added prior to determining the final result. So if you score a glancing hit with a Melta gun against the Penitent Engine and then subsequently roll a 2 on the damage table, then you add the modifiers together -2 +1 +1 = 0 and then add the result to the dice roll, so a 2. In your example, your opponent rolls a 2 meaning that the Penitent Engine loses one of it's flamers. The Rampage rule does not take effect. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146495-penitent-engine-rampage-rule/#findComment-1699356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corncob Posted September 19, 2008 Author Share Posted September 19, 2008 so modifiers are added immediately meaning a 2 is instantly a 3 with the + 1 for being opened topped Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146495-penitent-engine-rampage-rule/#findComment-1699518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corncob Posted September 20, 2008 Author Share Posted September 20, 2008 another quick question? can penitent engines take smoke. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146495-penitent-engine-rampage-rule/#findComment-1700463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toogeloo Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 No, Penitent Engines can take NO vehicular upgrades. There is no option to upgrade them if you look at their description. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146495-penitent-engine-rampage-rule/#findComment-1700566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
corncob Posted September 21, 2008 Author Share Posted September 21, 2008 are there any other vehicles like this, is their any where were it specifically says the penitent engine cant take upgrades Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146495-penitent-engine-rampage-rule/#findComment-1701364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toogeloo Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 If you look in the Witch Hunter Codex, in the Armoury, it will tell you that each vehicle's entry will explain what wargear options it can take. Now when you look at the Units you can choose, the first vehicles you come across are Transports (specifically Chimera, Rhino, and Land Raider), and at the top of the transports section it tells you what they can buy for upgrades as they all have the same upgrade capacity. The next vehicles you find are the Heavy Supports (specifically Immolators, Exorcists, and Penitent Engines). These vehicles have their own entries, under options, since each one differs in what it can take versus the others. Penitent Engines have no options. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146495-penitent-engine-rampage-rule/#findComment-1701438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTang Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 "Thank you for 'volunteering' for this form of penance. Now what options would you like on your torture device?" B) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146495-penitent-engine-rampage-rule/#findComment-1701476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
- 7eAL - Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 "Thank you for 'volunteering' for this form of penance. Now what options would you like on your torture device?" ^_^ Oh Emperor's purest eyes - I just had some very perverted ideas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/146495-penitent-engine-rampage-rule/#findComment-1702650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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