Panzerkopf Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Does a model with Cloak of St. Aspira get a 2+ invulnerable save when it uses the Sprit of the Martyr Faith Act? When a model is equipped with the Cloak of St. Aspira, it gains +1 to it's armor save. So a Canoness with a 3+ save will gain a 2+. However, Spirit of the Martyr will grant the model/unit using it an invulnerable save equal to its UNMODIFIED armor save. The way I've been playing it, the Canoness with a Cloak has her armor save modified by that wargear item and therefore would only get a 3+ invul from SotM. However, I recently played a guy who told me that when it says "unmodified" in SotM's entry, it was referring to the way wargear items like the old Ork Choppa could decrease an armor save. Thus a Caononess with a Cloak would get a 2+ invulnerable save! Am I right, or have I been cheating myself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charred Heretic Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 She gets the 2+ invuln. Her "normal" armor save improves from 3+ to 2+ when she dons the Glorious Cloak of the hallowed Saint Aspira. She uses the 2+ through the entire game, so it is her "normal" save while wearing the wargear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissia Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 It is as Charred Heretic said. She can indeed get a 2+ invulnerable save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toogeloo Posted September 26, 2008 Share Posted September 26, 2008 Spirit of the Martyr will grant the model/unit using it an invulnerable save equal to its UNMODIFIED armor save.This is incorrect, read your Codex again. The word "Unmodified" is not in the description of the Faith Power. The Reference Sheet at the end further simplifies the use of the power as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzerkopf Posted September 26, 2008 Author Share Posted September 26, 2008 You're right. I guess I interpreted "normal" to mean "unmodified" and it got stuck in my head like that. Thanks for setting me straight guys. I've lost so many Canonesses because of this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkaniss Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 D'oh! Ah well - at least you know now Panzerkopf. You can now start charging your Canoness into all those badass close combat enemies and make use of that 2++! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charred Heretic Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 I've lost so many Canonesses because of this... Wow. That's kinda sad. I even use the Mantle quite a bit, thanks to the greatly increased presence of the (str6) Assault Cannon after GW ramped it up into something just shy of a tactical nuke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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