Albion de Heaven Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Hi all, we are just playing a mission with Down of War deployment Ravenwing vs Chaos i would deploy my HQ (Sammael) and 2 troops (full bike squadron + AB + Land Speeder) that's almost half of my army can my opponent decide to deploy NO unit at all? Italian rulebook can be misunderstood. It says that the first player can deploy UP TO 1HQ and 2Troops than it says that the second player deploys his 3 unit. But since it's a translation can be not so accurate, can u help us? thanx Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147996-dow-deployment/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypher 102 Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 American translation is: "His opponent then does the same in the opposite half . . ." So your opponent can choose to deploy nothing. Keep in mind that if your splitting your Ravenwing squad then each combat squad would count as one of your troops choices. So about the only way to legally deploy the Ravenwing squad in Dawn of War is the land speeder as one unit and all the bikes and attack bike as one big unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147996-dow-deployment/#findComment-1717106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albion de Heaven Posted October 5, 2008 Author Share Posted October 5, 2008 Thank you for reply with translation but i disagree about how combat squad works for deploy DoW says u have to deploy 2troops choice this means 2 units that use 1 Troop slot on force organization chart 1 full squad of ravenwing (6bike 1attack bike 1 speeder) are 1 Troop choice both if u use them all togather or if u split in combact squad comments and discussion welcomed :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147996-dow-deployment/#findComment-1717472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeattleDV8 Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 In DOW each unit counts for deployment, it is not the FOC. The ravenwing could deploy a 6 bike squad and the attack bike. When deploying the bikes spilt off from the attack bike and land speeder. The single troop chioce deploys as 3 or 4 units, if combat squading the bikes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147996-dow-deployment/#findComment-1717557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Pash Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 I hate to say it, but if the Italian version of the rules says that you can deploy 2 TROOP CHOICES then it is different from the English version. We play (and everyone who uses the English rulebook) play it as 2 UNITS (such as 1 Tactical Squad and ! Rhino = 2 UNITS or 2 Combat Squads = 2 UNITS), that's how we've interpreted the rules and we believe it to be correct and how it's was meant to be interpreted. :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147996-dow-deployment/#findComment-1717688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypher 102 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 It says as much in the italics example below the picture for deployment. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147996-dow-deployment/#findComment-1717970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nighthawks Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 funny that the guy who started at GW as a translator of Enlish to Italian would have authored the rulebook that causes such problems when translated into Italian... or is he maybe giving the Italians an edge over the rest of the world? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147996-dow-deployment/#findComment-1718592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordekiem Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 In DOW each unit counts for deployment, it is not the FOC. The ravenwing could deploy a 6 bike squad and the attack bike. When deploying the bikes spilt off from the attack bike and land speeder. The single troop chioce deploys as 3 or 4 units, if combat squading the bikes. Agreed, the rulebook says units, not FOC choices. The italian book may say something different, but I would guess that it has an example that is similar to the english version and would probably help clarify. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147996-dow-deployment/#findComment-1718873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xman Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 The diagram next to the description even talks about it in the italcised portion right under the picture. But the best part about it is it says "Up To" 2 Troops & 1 HQ. Hence, you can deploy 0 without a problem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/147996-dow-deployment/#findComment-1719864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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