Nightrunner Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Well, with the GT heat 2 coming up, I sent in some specific questions about the SW's to Warhammer world. They have just recently released an FAQ, and so I thought that I would browse it to see what was down for us (if anything). Linky to Warhammer World events I was pleased to see that my specific questions, as I had emailed them, had been tackled. So, for me, this is how I will play these things from now on - if its allowed in the UKGT, I reckon I'm playing it right with my mates! 143. In the Space Wolves codex, it states that Venerable dreadnoughts must take vehicle upgrades from the Space Marine armoury. The FAQ says I take vehicle optionsthat are in my codex, from my codex. So... Should I use the SW codex's old costs, or should I use the SM's new ones? Use the costs as listed in the Space Wolves Codex. The vehicle upgrade costs from the ‘Space Marines Armoury’ should be taken as: Extra Armour (5pts), Searchlight (1pt), Smoke Launchers (3 pts) 144. The English GW Space Wolves FAQ says that I pay the new costs for everything but Rhino's and Razorbacks. Is this correct? This isn’t correct, the FAQ states that you should… “Use the points costs and rules from Codex:Space Marines for Dreadnoughts, Land Speeders, Attack Bikes, Whirlwinds, Predators, Land Raiders and Vindicators… The exception to this is the Venerable Dreadnoughts, which must be chosen from the Space Wolves army list.” Also, in the Space Wolves Codex, under the Troops Special Rules section, it states: “Certain Space Wolves squads can take a Rhino or Razorback as a transport vehicle. Details of these vehicles can be found in Codex: Space Marines.” So.... Cheap rhinos, razors, and dreadnought. Nice! NR :tu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Please note these documents are not official GW FAQ or errata Still, I'd say you're safe using rhinos and razorbacks from C:SM, just check the local store first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzyman1981 Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Yeah, yesterday I asked to make sure and the guy running the event said it was ok to use the C:SM (and now that I have the FAQ printed up I can actually show it =P). The Rhino/Razorback thing seems pretty simple to most people but others (mainly those not wanting to let us have anything else) want to always keep it complicated and that is where the arguments and differences come up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightrunner Posted October 12, 2008 Author Share Posted October 12, 2008 Please note these documents are not official GW FAQ or errata Still, I'd say you're safe using rhinos and razorbacks from C:SM, just check the local store first. Yeah, I know they aren't the company's actual FAQ's, but generally what is approved for the environment of tournament play I would surely let any of my opponents take in a friendly pick-up game. I always find GW's position on their own tournament and rules a bit confusing, but such is life! NR ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimfoe Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Nice link. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 I am going to link the FAQ on that issue to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 iv just had a odd thought though taking a razor back from the new csm dex with twinlink assult canons ....the cost with be speced for the new assult canon rules im just curious which rules to use for the old girl the wolf dex or the newer rending rules great find though thanks mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 by russ's frozen balls! i dont think anybody reads the faqs anymore. any rule that isnt expressly Space Wolf (acute senses, blood fued) we take from the Codex Space Marine. so we use the heavy 4, rending. wolf lord kieran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 yes thats how i took it. but then iv just been looking through the faq thread so thanks for the temperance i just wanted confimation as thats quite a change in the area i play in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfLordLars Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Quite a change? The one in the back of the SW is for reference, and is often wrong. Should I add that to the FAQ too? Edit: Wait.. was already there. By Russ, does no one read the thing (or can bother to post their questions there)? Anyway, I further defined that yes, we do indeed use the stats for weapons from C:SM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 This was brought up in the IG FAQ where there is contradictions in the codex to the reference in the back! The FAQ stated that the reference section takes no precedence in the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 by change i mean the groups i play in theres a lot of wolf hate about at the moment so i need to back up my arguments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzyman1981 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 and THAT is the reason we should all have hard cover Rulebooks....WHACK! right upside the noodle and add the new SM Codex and even our SW Codex for that extra UMPH! when people question common sense rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanfield Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 aye to that works better than throwing dice at em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzyman1981 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Well the books work better cause the dice only work if you get them in the eye(s) or you get a really weak person =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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