King_Pash Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Came up today in my local GW. A SM Dread with 1 DCC weapon attacks an Eldar Avatar. The Avatar goes first and manages to blow off the Dread arm. Dread attacks back. Now, does the Dread attack with: 1) 2+1=3 attacks 2) S10 or S6? Thoughts please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother_Dan'l Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I assume the Avatar has higher I than a Dreadnought? If so you would treat the Dreads attacks as if the DCCW had been destroyed prior to the combat. So it would have 1+1(charge?) attacks at S6 with armor saves allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeattleDV8 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 It would be the same as if the Dread was "killed" at the higher I. It would get no attacks. the damage takes effect before his attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reglor Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 It would be the same as if the Dread was "killed" at the higher I. It would get no attacks. the damage takes effect before his attacks. I'm not sure where you're getting this but its not true. Assuming that the Dread has not suffered any other hits it would have 3, 2+1 for charging, attacks at its base strength of 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 the question is... which arm was blown off, IIRC they do have two of them... if it was the DCCW arm then they get base attacks +1 for charging at base S (6 in this case), if it was the gun arm then they would get base attacks +1 at S10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trekari Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Mal is correct here. I'd love to know where the idea first originated that losing the DCCW somehow reduces your attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Pash Posted October 29, 2008 Author Share Posted October 29, 2008 It was the DCCW arm. Otherwise it wouldn't have been a problem. I suppose base+1 at S6 does make sense. I think that's what the guys played it as (I was spectating). Question sorted. Thanks lads. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I'd love to know where the idea first originated that losing the DCCW somehow reduces your attacks. Probably Codex Chaos Space Marines 3.5 and 4th. Their dreads come with 3 case attacks which are reduced to 2 if you exchange the DCCW with a missile launcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniclurker Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 You don't drop lower than your base number of attacks, no matter how many arms you lose. If you lose all of your DCCW's, then you don't get the double strength (up to 10) and the power weapon effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 IIRC there used to be a bonus attack if you took the DCCW arm, but thats not the case anymore. Unless you have TWO CCW arms then it has absolutly no effect on the number of attacks the dread gets, only the strength it fights at (and in the case of seismic hammer the I it fights at, and in the case of chainfist the AP it uses, but you get the picture) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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