Venter_Of_Russ Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 So, awhile back the bell of lost souls mentioned that Bjorn the fel handed is likely to return to the new Space Wolf codex. That being said, I want to hear what my brothers are expecting to see from one our most legendary heroes. Personally, I'd like to see his armor boosted up to 14/14/12, ala Sammael in the Dark Angels codex. (Not too likely, since that plus venerable rerolls would make him nigh on indestructible). I'd also like to see him featured with his signature lightning claw, hopefully with some sort of mastercrafted rule appended to it. Finally, a leadership boost to nearby Space Wolves would be handy, given that he was our first Great Wolf. Thoughts, sons of Russ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151304-bjorn-the-fel-handed/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Keep his armour at 12/12/10, but perhaps make it so if the opponent rerolls and does better (ie you force reroll on Weapon Destroyed and it goes to Explodes!) you can pick which one you want. Assault Cannon + Lightning Claw, XArmour, some sort of nifty rule about his sheer awesomeness. Maybe all SW within 6" have +1A - functions a bit like a Chapter banner. Lets be honest, he's more inspirational than the Chapter Masters towel... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151304-bjorn-the-fel-handed/#findComment-1759987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Betrayed_Spacewolf Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 and that he and a few others defended the entire fang against the traitor bucharius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151304-bjorn-the-fel-handed/#findComment-1759989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Id say give him armor as an ironclad, assaultcannon/heavy flamer/ DCCW at BS and WS 6..... Old and Wise updated to the new edition, Venerable++ *as eldar holofield- roll twice and take the lowest* and extra armor per standard. Give him the ability to take a drop pod for the normal points..... as a vendread in our codex at the same options plus 45 points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151304-bjorn-the-fel-handed/#findComment-1760105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The God Emperor Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Nothing are too high these days when you think of the new Space Marines codex, Codex Creep-ing, my friend is the new fashion. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151304-bjorn-the-fel-handed/#findComment-1760633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Wolf Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Word on the street is 13/12/11 armor, Lightning Claw, some kind of pre-heresy fusion weapon (like Dante's Pistol), Venerable and I can't remember but there were a couple of special rules like +1A, etc. But I could be off. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151304-bjorn-the-fel-handed/#findComment-1760687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF4i Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 That would be sweet! I look forward to using him, even if he isn't the bees knees! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151304-bjorn-the-fel-handed/#findComment-1760882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullr Direfang Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 i heard something about a special "old" styled assault cannon, not as many shots but better strength and AP plus longer range. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151304-bjorn-the-fel-handed/#findComment-1760902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 i heard something about a special "old" styled assault cannon, not as many shots but better strength and AP plus longer range. I want to see something like extra shots, I wouldn't see higher S and AP... S7 AP 3 would be overkill and likely 3 shots... that's way more powerful than an autocannon and that's just not right... I do see higher AV though, extra attack, and lightning claw. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151304-bjorn-the-fel-handed/#findComment-1760970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 well the lightning claw is a must, the rest of the weaponry can be chooped and changed as his arnament has changed throughout the years Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151304-bjorn-the-fel-handed/#findComment-1760977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 So a DCCW that rerolls to wounds? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151304-bjorn-the-fel-handed/#findComment-1761158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. A. K. Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 A DCCW that re-rolls to hit would be much better. Also I would love a holo-field type status, just to stick to the eldar for once with my indestructable Dread. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151304-bjorn-the-fel-handed/#findComment-1761506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Well lets see.... Vendread- Assault cannon, Extra Armor, Heavy FLamer- 170pts. Holofield- 35pts. BS/WS 6- 15 pts. Front Armor 13- 15pts. Mastercrafted everything-25pts. Updated character- 5pts. 265pts+ Drop pod? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151304-bjorn-the-fel-handed/#findComment-1761541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgrim Blackwolf Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Well lets see.... Vendread- Assault cannon, Extra Armor, Heavy FLamer- 170pts. Holofield- 35pts. BS/WS 6- 15 pts. Front Armor 13- 15pts. Mastercrafted everything-25pts. Updated character- 5pts. 265pts+ Drop pod? Bjorn the Fell Handed back in the SW Codex = Priceless :D I would like to see Bjorn given the following: Approx. Iron Clad Armor stats - 13/13/11 (Drednought body built of long lost tech??) Hard to Kill, Old & Wise BS = 6, WS = 6, Initiative = 5, (He is one of the wisest and most capable warriors still alive in the imperium and he was the Great Wolf many moons ago) Str 7, AP4, Heavy 3 36" Assault Cannon (Could be master crafted??) Master-Crafted DCCW with Re-rolls to wound (Lightning Claw) Heavy Flamer Pedro Cantor's Inspiring Presence (+ 1 attack to all frendly units within 12") or functions as SW Chapter Banner?? He would probably cost well over 200pts with that set up but it would be worth it. We will only know when the wolftime (SW codex release) comes around. Keep believing guys, we will get the most kick arse dred in the galaxy back some day!! ;) Thorgrim Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151304-bjorn-the-fel-handed/#findComment-1761568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Betrayed_Spacewolf Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 well yeah of course hed be expensive hes the only (i think) vehicle hq around run an iron priest behind him and hes almost indestructible Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151304-bjorn-the-fel-handed/#findComment-1761804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnlyInDeath Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 here is the original topic on this post. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151304-bjorn-the-fel-handed/#findComment-1761816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Betrayed_Spacewolf Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 link is no good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151304-bjorn-the-fel-handed/#findComment-1761877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_POINTED_STICK Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Dumb question, shouldn't he have a reaper auto cannon... I mean how long did he last as the CM after all? Well anyhow, instead of an assault cannon, he should get a TL reaper auto cannon of frag filled fury. 2 rerollable s7 shots is better than 4x s6. OR maybe have it be 4x s7 cause its ancient and cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151304-bjorn-the-fel-handed/#findComment-1762628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Bjorn did not become "dreadnaughtized" until well after the Heresy. By then we had assault cannons in large numbers- they were only being developed during the Crusade. So Bjorn would have an assault cannon (uv DOOM! Muhahahahahhahaaa!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151304-bjorn-the-fel-handed/#findComment-1762695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Thank you bran.... I think that summed it up perfectly lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151304-bjorn-the-fel-handed/#findComment-1762717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 I live only to serve. *sweeping bow* :D @ Decoy: I see you lurking on the forum! Get yer wulfen backside in here and start posting or I'll have to call the wrath of a thousand beer-deprived Blood Claws done on you! :P Just kidding... don't kill me! :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151304-bjorn-the-fel-handed/#findComment-1762729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Dumb question, shouldn't he have a reaper auto cannon... I mean how long did he last as the CM after all? Well since his inturnment into the dred body he has had weapons changes. I think get rid of the asscanon or increase its range, he does not need to be BS6, 5 is enough, as for WS i think 5 is fine but he could do with a wolf tooth neclace ttpe rule so he hit enemis on 3+ and re rolls to wound cos of the lightning claw not that he would need to and against vehickles he should get and extra d6 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151304-bjorn-the-fel-handed/#findComment-1763044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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