WolfGeezer Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 So these aren't official errata outside of Grand Tournaments, but seeing as GW issue these, thought it might be of interest. Issue date 30 October. SPACE WOLVES 85) In the Space Wolves codex, it states that Venerable Dreadnoughts must take vehicle upgrades from the Space Marine armoury. The FAQ says I take vehicle options that are in my codex, from my codex. Should I use the Space Wolves Codex’s old costs, or should I use the Space Marine Codex’s new ones? Use the costs as listed in the Space Wolves Codex. The vehicle upgrade costs from the ‘Space Marines Armoury’ should be taken as: Extra Armour (5pts), Searchlight (1pt), Smoke Launchers (3 pts). - No news here right? 86) The English GW Space Wolves FAQ says that I pay the new costs for everything but Rhinos and Razorbacks. Is this correct? This isn’t correct, the FAQ states that you should “…use the point costs and rules from Codex Space Marines for Dreadnoughts, Land Speeders, Attack Bikes, Whirlwinds, Predators, Land Raiders and Vindicators”; this list should have included Rhinos and Razorbacks. Also use the points cost and vehicle upgrade rules in Codex Space Marines. The exception to this is the Venerable Dreadnought, which must be chosen from Codex Space Wolves. :D 87) Can a Wolf Guard Battle Leader take a heavy weapon? No. :cuss Blatant override of the FAQ albeit one I didn't agree with in the first place, but have been enjoying over recent months 88) Codex Space Marines has a number of pieces of wargear with different rules and stats to those in my codex, which rules do I use? In all cases use all the rules and points cost as specified in Codex Space Wolves. No news here, or are they trying to get us to use the summary stat page at the back, I don't think so. 89) Does the Space Wolf Venerable Dreadnought’s Old and Wise special rule allow you to re-roll the roll-off dice for each mission? Yes :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151316-latest-gt-rules-for-wolves/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf89 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 So these aren't official errata outside of Grand Tournaments, but seeing as GW issue these, thought it might be of interest. Issue date 30 October. SPACE WOLVES 85) In the Space Wolves codex, it states that Venerable Dreadnoughts must take vehicle upgrades from the Space Marine armoury. The FAQ says I take vehicle options that are in my codex, from my codex. Should I use the Space Wolves Codex’s old costs, or should I use the Space Marine Codex’s new ones? Use the costs as listed in the Space Wolves Codex. The vehicle upgrade costs from the ‘Space Marines Armoury’ should be taken as: Extra Armour (5pts), Searchlight (1pt), Smoke Launchers (3 pts). - No news here right? 86) The English GW Space Wolves FAQ says that I pay the new costs for everything but Rhinos and Razorbacks. Is this correct? This isn’t correct, the FAQ states that you should “…use the point costs and rules from Codex Space Marines for Dreadnoughts, Land Speeders, Attack Bikes, Whirlwinds, Predators, Land Raiders and Vindicators”; this list should have included Rhinos and Razorbacks. Also use the points cost and vehicle upgrade rules in Codex Space Marines. The exception to this is the Venerable Dreadnought, which must be chosen from Codex Space Wolves. :D 87) Can a Wolf Guard Battle Leader take a heavy weapon? No. :cuss Blatant override of the FAQ albeit one I didn't agree with in the first place, but have been enjoying over recent months 88) Codex Space Marines has a number of pieces of wargear with different rules and stats to those in my codex, which rules do I use? In all cases use all the rules and points cost as specified in Codex Space Wolves. No news here, or are they trying to get us to use the summary stat page at the back, I don't think so. 89) Does the Space Wolf Venerable Dreadnought’s Old and Wise special rule allow you to re-roll the roll-off dice for each mission? Yes :D Can we get a link? Not agreeing with #87 at all, considering the English GT clearly doesn't mention this... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151316-latest-gt-rules-for-wolves/#findComment-1760141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battle-Brother Wags Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Who puts together the GTs? The tournament scene really isn't my thing, so forgive my extreme ignorance in this matter. If the GTs are run by GW, then why would they go against their own FAQs so blatantly? And if they are run by GW, why don't they just make the GT clarifications into canon? So what is the current rule? Does my Space Wolf assault cannon shoot 3 or 4 shots? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151316-latest-gt-rules-for-wolves/#findComment-1760151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfGeezer Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 I'm not too familiar with the tournament scene myself, but my understanding is that the GT is organised and run by GW. I'm sure someone older in the fang can help out on that one. What I do know is that the rules for the GT are signed off on the document by someone called Andy Joyce who is the warhammer world events manager from GW and lists a GW UK email address. In fairness it does say they are the GT house rules, so shouldn't necessarily assume they will follow official FAQs etc. but you do have to wonder why they should give the opposite answer to the official FAQ and why if a sanctioned group has put so much work in, why they can't leverage the group to produce the official FAQs, from what I read more generally of the doc, most looked like practical solutions to outstanding real FAQs from guys who play the game regularly. As for the AC question I would still use the rule from C:SM as believe the last page is just an out of date summary page and doesn't really form part of the Codex i.e. Wargear page that states use as per C:SM would always take precedence over this stat summary. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151316-latest-gt-rules-for-wolves/#findComment-1761238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithGatchalian Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 These are not official for the US GT. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151316-latest-gt-rules-for-wolves/#findComment-1761316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Our assault cannon even refers to the 1 in the rule book how many times does that have to be said. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151316-latest-gt-rules-for-wolves/#findComment-1761384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WG Vrox Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 My guess is the manager who reviewed the Andy Joyce the the GT has been helping with or has looked at the new codex rules for C: SW and thus is not the current offical rules, just a slip of the tounge. WG Vrox Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151316-latest-gt-rules-for-wolves/#findComment-1761417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Dammit Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 What a load of wolf droppings Come one how hard is it to let us use the SM dex for our guns :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151316-latest-gt-rules-for-wolves/#findComment-1762164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 it is bullocks and par for the course coming from GW. At least it did not say you need your opponent's permission to take four shots. 0b :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151316-latest-gt-rules-for-wolves/#findComment-1766130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightrunner Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 My guess is the manager who reviewed the Andy Joyce the the GT has been helping with or has looked at the new codex rules for C: SW and thus is not the current offical rules, just a slip of the tongue. ....................basically, having just come back from the UK GT heat 2, I have been told that this overlooking of our FAQ is something that they are going to have to re-tackle for the finals. NR :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151316-latest-gt-rules-for-wolves/#findComment-1766294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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