Inquisitor Fox Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Check it out! I just found a link to this on Bell of Lost Souls, it's a DLable PDF updating IA2 for Fifth edition, with new options for the Inquisition!! They changed things like the rhino's point cost, added new rules and clarification for all our units, including Grey Knights and Sisters units! IA2 Update May all followers of the Emperor's Most Holy Inquisition rejoice! Edit: Highlights include updated transport capacity for Land Raiders, additional Land Raider variants and options, updated points costs for Rhinos, additional Dreadnaught options for Grey Knights Edit 2: A clarification... I found the INFORMATION on BoLS... the PDF itself is official Forgeworld, DLable on the Forgeworld Website Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nephilim Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 That's awesome. I'm not even an Inquisition player, but I'm glad to see they're getting some love. Hopefully they'll get a codex soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmouredWing Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Hmmmm, some nice little alterations in there. I'm liking the modified points costs for the Rhino & Repressor and particularly liking the fact that you could put arbites in the latter.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissia Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Glee. I'll have to use this to make a new list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marid Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Oddly, the GK LRC has no Multi-melta or option to buy one. I like the option to replace the TL LC on the LR GH with TL Psycannons, although you still have the TL HB in the middle. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakehunter52 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 LOL! This is awesome! So two big things: 1) Notice the Inquisitorial Chimera? Looks like new goodies for IG and us, personally I like the idea of having such cheap fire platforms and might convince me to get some chimeras and model them up so I can use those autocannons! 2) So....Land Raider Crusader...can take Psycannon bolts. Wait? But it doesn't have any bolters on their except the Hurricanes? Oh, I guess that solves that discussion! :P Seriously, that is super sweet! But kinda rough you can't take a multi-melta on them. Oh well, makes them what they should be, a horde killer! I'm going to have to see if they will allow me to use this at the place I play at... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inq. Enmerich Von Vattle Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 LOL! This is awesome! So two big things:I'm going to have to see if they will allow me to use this at the place I play at... I myself am in the same boat...I started negotiations and already yes for the Rhino, but still no for the Repressor(Although it has always been no for the represor, I have no idea why). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
number6 Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 This is cool, but ... I want GW to answer me this: Why can Forgeworld update rules in a sane, orderly fashion but GW proper cannot? Dear GW: I'm here all the time. I patiently await your response. The only glitch I note is that it doesn't look like it's possible to create TLLC/ML Grey Knights dreadnoughts with the IA2 updates. That's ... wrong!! Standard Marine dreads can still do this. I can only guess that this is a sloppy oversight, too. Forgeworld has a long and proud history of sloppy/loose rules, too. But at least they're trying to fix them! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 The only glitch I note is that it doesn't look like it's possible to create TLLC/ML Grey Knights dreadnoughts with the IA2 updates. That's ... wrong!! Standard Marine dreads can still do this. I can only guess that this is a sloppy oversight, too. Forgeworld has a long and proud history of sloppy/loose rules, too. But at least they're trying to fix them! I noticed this too, but I also noticed by these IA2 rules, the Grey Knight dreanought is WS5 AND has the option to select a DROP POD!! That's right.. we now have drop podded Grey Knight Dreads. How cool is that?!? So... Drop podded multi-melta GK dreads with heavy flamers anyone? :pinch: I'm leaning towards the TLLC/CCW version myself, with a heavy flamer. It did lose the ability to upgrade the heavy flamer to an incinerator, but now it lets us do a CCW w/ hvy flamer AND an incinerator as it's "ranged" weapon.. deployed via drop pod :) Ah the hampster wheel's are turning across the Imperium, I can feel it... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaelion Hexis Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Are the rules from IA official? It is not something I have ever looked into. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 As far as I can tell, if a tournement allows IA models, yes they are. My local GW shops all let us use Forgeworld things... doublecheck with various administrators of tournements and things on a case by case, but everywhere on GW's site seems to indicate their policy is Forgeworld stuff is grade A okay. It's more the local non-GW hobby stores that seem to have issues. At least that's my experience. From a technical standpoint, I can see a case that if it's not in a codex or FAQ on GW's main Warhammer 40K site it's not the same, but in application every GW employee I've checked with says OK to all Forgeworld things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benmothershaw Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Okay, Can I use this in standard games of 40k? I'm not entirely sure what this means games wise? Just apocalypse? Also I notice many mistakes, two twin linked assault Cannons imo cooooool... if they update assault cannons in here too! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissia Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 You can use Imperial Armour material (including this FAQ) with your opponent's permission. Most people who actually know anything about anything would let you, as many IA stuff is actually considered more balanced than default GW stuff. You'll probably also want to buy the IA2 rulebook. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkoman Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Repressors are as cheap as the codex rhinos! that means i can change all the rhinos in my current list with repressors! I may have to get imperial armor 2 now and a bunch of repressors. ooo and as an IG player i cant wait until the new codex comes out, with those chimera points and new rules, looks sweet! oh and the Prometheus! glee glee glee ;) See GW, thats all it takes to make an =][= player happy. small tweaks to help us feel like we are a part of 5e. I will definitely be using IA2 in my non tourney games. -stinko Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 mech sisters or foot sloggers cause the points matter Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 mech sisters or foot sloggers cause the points matter......whooo did not see that repressors were 50 pts....he hehe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 Why can Forgeworld update rules in a sane, orderly fashion but GW proper cannot? QFT. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diddlysquat Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 There would still be the problem of mixing stats from different sources though wouldn't there? e.g. Using the points from FW for the Rhino would also mean you'd have to use the FW Exorcist points as well, and it's dearer than the WH points...well, if you give it EA it is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eltnot Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 There would still be the problem of mixing stats from different sources though wouldn't there? e.g. Using the points from FW for the Rhino would also mean you'd have to use the FW Exorcist points as well, and it's dearer than the WH points...well, if you give it EA it is. You would have to use points from either one source or the other most likely. It would be rather frowned upon to mix prices... I was considering getting myself a copy of this book and some repressors. Now I definitely will. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppella Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 See, my shameless praise and cool Repressor plugs paid off. Faith Unfailing! :devil: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marid Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 2) So....Land Raider Crusader...can take Psycannon bolts. Wait? But it doesn't have any bolters on their except the Hurricanes? Oh, I guess that solves that discussion! :devil: Seriously, that is super sweet! But kinda rough you can't take a multi-melta on them. Oh well, makes them what they should be, a horde killer! I'm going to have to see if they will allow me to use this at the place I play at... Presumably that would be for a PM Storm Bolter. Unless they specifically say that Psycannon Bolts can be used for Hurricane Bolters (or just bolters on a vehicle) then I wouldn't count on it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissia Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Hurrican Bolters are effectively three normal bolters IIRC, thus they "count as" bolters and I would think equipment that effects bolters effects them in this particular instance. Just me though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Hassan Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Presumably that would be for a PM Storm Bolter. Unless they specifically say that Psycannon Bolts can be used for Hurricane Bolters (or just bolters on a vehicle) then I wouldn't count on it. C:DH p 19 under the heading Daemonhunters Vehicle Upgrades- Psycannon Bolts says .......~A storm bolter or heavy bolter (twin-linked or otherwise) with this upgrade counts as AP4 and ignores invulnerable saves; only normal armour saves may be taken. Good to go :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripath Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 They upped the cost of thunderhawks by 220 points! fething cheap people. jk lol I am off to try a drop pod dreadnaught with a multimelta. On a side note the coffee shop next to the pub is almost as good as the pub itself. hopefully we can make it to the pub next! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pork Chop Express Posted November 6, 2008 Share Posted November 6, 2008 Can someone please enlighten me, perhaps I am missing the obvious here... :o What are the advantages of the LR Prometheus for a command or honor guard? The weapons seem to be weaker than a standard LR without any special rules to offset this. Is it supposed to function like a Damocles? The update does not specify this and IA 2 is a bit vague. Please advise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/151384-ia2-updated-for-5th-edition/#findComment-1761793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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