commander alexander Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Ok you guys I wanted to start this thread to have people ask and answer questions that you might have about a lapse in rules or codex and what not. so here goes, in the 5th SM codex can you give the tech-marine attached to the thunderfire cannon servitors? ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 We have an entire forum for asking questions on the rules here And in answer to your question, no. The Techmarine Gunner is not a Techmarine (from the Force Organisation Chart) so does not have the options to have servitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordekiem Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I disagree. the techmarine with the gun is still a techmarine. and so he can get a servitor retinue. However, the tech and teh servitors cannot join together until the gun is destroyed. Refer to pg 73 of teh marine codex "Each thunderfire cannon is crewed by a single techmarine (see page 71 for special rules)." it goes on to explain that a techmarine with a cannon is not an IC until the gun is destroyed. And pg 138 "You may include one unit of Servitors for each techmarine...in your army" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 No Ferrata is correct. You dont pay for a techmarine and upgrade him to have a thunderfire, you pay for a thunderfire 'unit' that comes with a techmarine!! See your codex, if it doesnt mention servitors (which it doesnt) then how can you take them. ITs like taking gauntlets of ultramar for a sergeant, it doesnt say you cant do it!, but we all know you cant. Its easy if there are no options you cant take them. Gc08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedric Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Have fun rolling for mindlock if you take that unit of servitors to your techmarine and his gun, though. The servitors, gun and techie can't simultaneously be in the same squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nighthawks Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 No Ferrata is correct. You dont pay for a techmarine and upgrade him to have a thunderfire, you pay for a thunderfire 'unit' that comes with a techmarine!! See your codex, if it doesnt mention servitors (which it doesnt) then how can you take them. ITs like taking gauntlets of ultramar for a sergeant, it doesnt say you cant do it!, but we all know you cant. Its easy if there are no options you cant take them. Gc08 No techmarine unit entry has the option to upgrade to servitors in C:SM 5th. so your argument is completely irrelavent. servitors units take up no FOC slot and are limited to the number of techmarines or MotF in the army. the thunderfire cannon "unit" includes a Techmarine. therefore, for each techmarine, including MotF and Thunderfire gun crew, a unit of servitors may be included in the army. yes, all the rules regarding the techmarine and his gun, and ICs and units still apply, as does mindlock for the servitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Yes i stand corrected, you are right. I believed the servitors to be a unit 'upgrade', and as they werent available with the thunderfire cannon assumed you couldnt take them. That will teach me to check before i speak! Lesson learned :P GC08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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