Upstartes Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 If a marine unit uses Marneus Calgar's "God of War" ability, and chooses to pass a moral check after losing a round of close combat, does the unit take additional wound per the "No Retreat" rule? The No Retreat rule says that it applies to units that automatically pass morale checks, but makes no mention of units that can choose to pass or fail their tests. How have you seen it played? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mycroft Holmes Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 When using Calgar are you assumed to always pass morale checks (which is the criteria for No Retreat)? Nope. Cause you totally COULD fail that morale check if you wanted to. Mycroft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTang Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Opinion is divided about 50/50 on this one. I go with no 'No Retreat', but there's an argument the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedric Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 If you choose to pass, the pass is automatic and triggers "No Retreat!" If you choose to fail, it is likewise automatic, but you get a chance to leg it and avoid the extra wounds. All in all, it gives you some flexibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpawn Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Given that choosing to fail a test for ATSKNF is considered to be automatic (the rule actually uses that word), I think the same logic applies here as well, even though the word Automatic is missing from Calgar's rules. My honest belief is that GW's definition of "automatic" in these cases, is for it to happen without dice rolling. I'm also having a hard time believing they intended to create some kind of uber-fearless rule, where you could choose to stand and fight, without the usual consequences. I am pretty sure that it is enough that you get to choose pass or fail, without trying to avoid no retreat wounds as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upstartes Posted November 22, 2008 Author Share Posted November 22, 2008 After asking the question here, I stumbled across the gigantic flame-war that happened on this topic over at Farseer. Wow. Anyway, no need to repeat that here. Thanks for the answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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