blood_raven_240 Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Hey, I don't understand how everything works when it comes to Bloodletters, and Chaos Space Marines... I mean, since they're in Codex: Demons, do they need to be drafted in under Allied rules if I want some Bloodletters in my CSM army? Or is that totally impossible anyway? I just don't get it... :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 You can't have daemons from C:D in a CSM army. You can have generic lesser daemons in your CSM army, using hte rules in C:CSM. You may use the same models, but not the same rules, unless you play apocalypse (or use renegade imperial guard from forgeworld apparently, but that's a bit confusing, so ignore this bit). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blood_raven_240 Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 Oh, uh, okay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narthecium Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Yeah sorry. Chaos no longer has named Daemons like Bloodletters, Daemonettes, and the like. They know have "Lesser" and "Greater" Daemons, which the stats are available for in your Chaos codex. Using the daemons from Codex: Daemons is not allowed. We can always hope that they'll put out something to update the cruddy little Chaos codex that allows them to be used, but in the meantime the Bloodthirster, Plaguebearers, Daemonettes, Fiends, etc, are all Daemon Army only, and cannot be used in a Chaos Space Marine army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniclurker Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 If it helps, play more Apoc. You can use the bloodletters as bloodletters then, but they won't be able to charge like they used to be able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blood_raven_240 Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 Yeah... Forgive me if I'm missing something here, but... what about a Chaos & Demons allied army? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 There are no generic rules for allies, you can make up your own scenario in which chaos marines and daemons ally, but they would still be 2 separate armies. The only official way to use allies is by allying in daemonhunters or witchhunters in to another imperial army, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blood_raven_240 Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 Oh, okay =/ Well, I knew there was something that I'd be missing when it came to the rules on that one... Anyway, thanks for the quick response =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narthecium Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Yep, no allies for Chaos. They hate all! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blood_raven_240 Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 They hate all So they hate the demons that they partially become extremely alike with? In all the CSM books I've read, they seem to get pretty excited about it. Seems to me they should be allowed to ally with Demons? Outside of Tournaments, though... is there any way? I mean, if you're just playing for fun... you could ally them, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 You could house rule it, but don't expect to be able to do it in a pick up game. If your friends are ok with it go ahead, if not then tough luck I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blood_raven_240 Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 Yeah... Well, I probably won't be playing at any level other than with my mates, or like-minded individuals at my local GW, so... I think it'd be cool =) I might actually do something like a 950 point allied army between the two, for my showcase =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Go for it, just make sure they know in advance that you're taking units from both, and make a good ally system, probably similar to the one in the DH and WH books (probably best to ally daemons in to a chaos army, not the other way around). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blood_raven_240 Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 Yeah, I agree, the Demons are allied into the Chaos Space Marines army... So, should I just snag one of the 'hunters' ally rules? Would they work well enough? Say, Witch Hunters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Probably the best way, but really you should work it out with the guys you're likely to be playing against, afterall, if they don't like it they won't play against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blood_raven_240 Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 Hmm... I suppose... It could always just be a Showcase Army type of thing that's ocassionally played against friends? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Malachi Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 No reason you can't collect both armies, you'll be able to use models from your daemon army as generic daemons in your CSM army, so it'll be reasonably cheap to get both armies going. That's what I plan to do, going to start Deathguard next year sometime and use my plaguebearers to bulk up my forces until I have a decent CSM army going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blood_raven_240 Posted December 29, 2008 Author Share Posted December 29, 2008 Well, yeah, I suppose so =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.