Brother Drakist Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 All, Looking for some input from players that are more Chaos experienced than I am. I have only played a few games with my Black Legion so I am still getting a feel for them. What I want to ask is what has been your best anti-tank units? Thanks in advance for any input! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 :o oblits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1825232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidren2401 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Big unit of havocs with 3 autocannons and a lascannon, never die and always take down 3 times their weight in points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1825308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 A unit of chosen with multipul meltaguns/meltabombs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1825366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Of Chaos Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 :rolleyes: oblits.  seconded  also DPs nothing like Monstrous Creatures to shred armour Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1825421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megalodon Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Yeah Oblits are great for AT work! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1825496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cale Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Mechanized squads with two meltas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1825549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Oblits. Really there is no reason to take havocs now that they can no longer take tank hunters in my opinion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1825555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbaron997 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Mechanized squads with two meltas. Â Qouted for Truth. Â 10 marines with x2 Melta guns and a Powerfist. Throw them in a Rhino with a combi-melta and you have a troop capable of taking down the hardest tanks, while still being able to be very effective in assault and bolter fire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1825567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeller Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Terminators. Â Not necessarily my best but my only readily available AT amongst an army of grunts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1825607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 my DP. failing that give me Khârn!!!! or termies will do too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1825696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drà yhèn Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Oblits and termies, hard to say which. Both have pretty equal scores in tanks. Termies have never failed to kill a tank when they've intended to, oblits in the other hand.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1825980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornelias Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Oblits became less useful in this role with the addition of outflanking in 5th edition, before i would have agreed with oblits but i'll third what Cale said and go for the CSM squad with 2 meltas and a fist :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1826085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Harte Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 In my experience it is the 2 melta + powerfist chaos marine squad and the multiple melta gun chose squd. Â Meltas and powerfists compliment each other and the squad can be used to take on all sorts. The 9 krak grenades/27 close combat attacks you get from the rest of your guys agaisnt the rear armour when charging a vehicle is also worth mentioning to. Â Although it has already been mentioned and seconded, but I third it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1826397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiodome Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Havocs, in a rhino with 5 meltas does it for me... or at least is doing fine while i play test my new renegades army. meltas are the anti-tank weapon of choice now... and havocs can have 4 of them! (plus combi weapon on rhino). plus with the rhino's movement they're an effective range of about 24" which aint bad for assault weapons. Â Currently the unit is: Â (7)Havocs: 4 x Meltagun, Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon 2 x Bolter, Bolt pistol, Close Combat weapon 1 x Bolter, Bolt pistol, Close Combat weapon, Icon of chaos glory Rhino: combi melta =200 Â They're accompanied by Huron Blackheart, so with their 2 ccw's and his warptime they also a good assault unit, and good anit horde with bolters and heavy flamer. a lot cheaper than chosen too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1826441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 It's usually a toss-up between these 3 units as to who wrecks the most tanks, 5 Raptors with 2 Meltas. 2 Obliterators. 4 Terminators with combis. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1826463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Doyok Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Agree with Nihm. I've sworn to never use Oblits. So i always take 5 man Raptors with 2 meltas. I take a squad in 1.5k and 2 squads in 1750 games. Â 3 man termies with 3 combi-melta is just 105pts. Never used them yet, but i've bought the combis for the day when i need them. Â cheers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1826610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Obliterators. They just make it too easy. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1827589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aarhus Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Oblits. Really there is no reason to take havocs now that they can no longer take tank hunters in my opinion. Â Back when Havocs could still take it I still didn't give my 4x HB Havoc Squad tank hunter... Furthermore, when my 4x AC Havoc Squad took Tank Hunter, their work was often cut short by other AT units, and then the squad further excelled in shredding anti-infantry; which goes to show that armies still can put out enough AT that this unit still seemed (though I have no experience in this edition with Chaos, sadly) worthy of fielding over oblits. Â [cheap 300 knock off] These are dark days; where marines can get 4+ cover, and opponents know to spread units to protect from templates. These are end times; when opponent AT can eliminate a unit of Oblits with a pair of lascannons/bright lances/exorcist(s) missiles in his/her possession, and a pair of unlucky dice in your possession. Â THIS IS WARHAMMER!! [/cheap 300 knock off] Â Â *cough* that being said, -my- best anti-tank unit near-completely changed roles in the new chaos dex. While min-maxers and efficiency-priests would decry me, my Defiler with Twin Lascannons would decide that instead of (once again) firing at marines in 4+ cover, and perhaps killing 1-3 instead of 4-6, I would surprise the living "bio-mass" out of my opponent by turning the usually disgusting Anti-Inf war-machine into a Land Raider popping menace. Â Often times, it was "XX points wasted". The ~1/3 times it worked, it left my opponent searching for the appropriate curse word. Â That's just my experience, and other people will tell you their experience in spending XXpts elsewhere suited them better. Â Â If I were to resurrect my Chaos army into the new rulebook and new edition, I'd still take a defiler with a Twin Lascannon, except this time around; he'd have an extra DCCW just in case!! ^_^ Â Â Cheers, Lawrence. Â ++EDIT++ Mind you, I'm saying this because I like being different; and I'm a big fan of trying out -all- options. "Extremely Efficient" -and- "otherwise..." Furthermore, this is because I've already tried Oblits, and I've already tried the TL-LC Defiler, and I like them both. They're also both good at what they do; even though they do it in different ways, different directions, different quantities and qualities. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1828037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 can you give more details on the use and tactics for defilers armed with twin lascanons? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1828614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor_wu Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Toss up between oblits and 10x chaos space marines with 2x meltas. Both take out tanks but do other roles well too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1828622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadaeux Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Odd. Not a single Defiler recommendation... Â In ONE Game (3'500 Apocalypse) my two Defilers wrecked 2'000 points worth of Armour including a Baneblade. BOTH (Miraculously) survived the entire game! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1828784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muskie Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Landraider... Â 14 armor is tough especially at smaller points and two twin-linked Lascannons is pretty awesome. It also has intimidation. Â A character with high attacks and a powerfist should work well. Don't forget the chainfist. That opens up cans... If you're aggressive you could try teleporting near enemy armor. I usually use my icons or just walk across the board blasting as I go. Ten terminators with mark of Nurgle is tough for anything to deal with... I don't think anyone wants to see me field the Right Hard Posse again... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1828924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComradeRed Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Who needs shooting to kill tanks? Khorne Berserkers all the way. Berserkers are the anti-everything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1830142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukov Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 My DP, odd enough, always kills the most tanks. Odd 'cause i dont take them to do that job but he is damn effective at it if he does so... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/156170-what-has-been-your-best-anti-tank-unit/#findComment-1832044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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