Would they be THAT loyal?

[Kairos]

I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to chaos fluff, so my questions are

 

1. Would specialist troops (Berzerkers, Noise Marines, etc.) lend their services to any renegade legion?

 

2. Would they change the colour of their armour to match the legion they're fighting with, even if it's just a shoulder pad or something?

 

3.Is it unfluffy to field Obliterators with Khorne armies?

 

Thankyou in advance.

[Mal]

1. Depends... if it meets their needs, then I would say yes.

 

2. No.

 

3. Once again, it depends... if the khorns army is made up from zerks from lots of different legions, then I seriously doubt there will be many, if any oblits there, however if its a legion serving khorne, then I would expect to see oblits.

[AkiraCho]

no on all accounts chaos

 

for the most part berzerkers serve anyone who will lead them to war.

 

read Storm of Iron thatll show yah what i mean..

 

and yeah people in legions and renegade chapers could very much devote themselves to a single god or something or other..

[Imperialis_Dominatus]

1. Would specialist troops (Berzerkers, Noise Marines, etc.) lend their services to any renegade legion?

 

Yep. See the Chaos Codex, they do it often apparently.

 

2. Would they change the colour of their armour to match the legion they're fighting with, even if it's just a shoulder pad or something?

 

Maybe a shoulder pad. Or perhaps a tabard. Heck, some who join the Black Legion paint their whole armor save the head (ref. 4th ed. Chaos Codex, can't give a page number cause the book is a thousand miles or so away).

 

3.Is it unfluffy to field Obliterators with Khorne armies?

 

Nope. He's a god of war. Guns are used in war, yes? :D

 

Thankyou in advance.

 

You're welcome.

[Kairos]

Thanks for the very quick answers!

[Lord Humongous]

As an expansion to question #2, mercinary cult units might not repaint their armor, but there's nothing saying a renegade legion can't have members who form thier own cult units. In that case, you'd have (for example) Plauge Marines who have the exact same paint job as the rest of the army, only probably in a much shabier state of repair / covered in filth.

[Sons of Horus]

1. why not.

 

2. i doubt it and some renegade forces have their own cult troops anyway.

 

3. WE probably have obliterators even if they are dedicated to Khorne i mean their techmarines had to go somewhere right.

[MuGGzy]

I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to chaos fluff, so my questions are

 

1. Would specialist troops (Berzerkers, Noise Marines, etc.) lend their services to any renegade legion?

 

It's chaos, if you want to come up with a reason, like the hosting army offered a particularly juicy relic or book or something, then ya, anyone CAN fight with anyone else. As far as FLUFF goes, certain legions would NEVER fight together (ie Korhne hates Tzeench, Slaanesh hates Nurgle). It's your army though. Plus, you can make a splinter faction and use "counts as", like make some Nurgle-ish marines that are into melee, and they are your "Berzerkers" etc.

 

2. Would they change the colour of their armour to match the legion they're fighting with, even if it's just a shoulder pad or something?

 

Probably not, if you are talking about pure founding Legons, a World Eater would NEVER dress in diff colors just because he was fighting with/for some random renegade warlord.

 

3.Is it unfluffy to field Obliterators with Khorne armies?

Obliterators are basically mercenary heavy support units in the EoT. They work for anyone that offers them the tech they want.

 

Thankyou in advance.

[Kairos]

I know I'm a bit of a noob, but aren't Khorne and Slaanesh, Nurgle and Tzeentch enemies more than Khorne/Tzeentch, Nurgle/Slaanesh?

[Captain Kael]

I know I'm a bit of a noob, but aren't Khorne and Slaanesh, Nurgle and Tzeentch enemies more than Khorne/Tzeentch, Nurgle/Slaanesh?

 

Well not neccesarily.

 

Khorne is the god of violence, war, carnage. So a follower of Khorne kills and kills and kills. This is an outward act, one for Khorne and for the skull throne. Slaanesh is the god of SELF pleasure so all acts in worship of Slaanesh are inward acts, acts for them selves. This is why Khorne and Slaanesh do not get along. They believe in opposing beliefs. Khorne is like an outward acting god while Slaanesh is an inward acting god.

 

Khorne also despises Tzeentch due to Tzeentch using magic. Khorne believes the right way to kill someone is to duel them with close combat weapons and kill in an honorable way. (well not honorable but like kill them in a way where maximum blood comes out I guess)

 

Nurgle doesn't hate anyone because he is the god of pestillence and decay. So he doesn't care what the other gods do. Nurgle worshippers also use magic.

[Imperialis_Dominatus]

Well, really, all the Gods hate each other because they're rivals for the dominion of the Warp and the universe. But specifically:

 

Khorne hates Slaanesh for the reasons above (external vs. internal), and the fact that he sees Slaanesh as a wuss.

 

Khorne hates underhanded trickery and sorcery, so he hates Tzeentch.

 

He probably also doesn't like Nurgle, but that's why he sends him a Speed Stick every century.

 

Tzeentch is the opposite of Nurgle because while Tzeentch stands for evolution and progress, Nurgle is the decay and rot of all things and the despair that brings.

 

Tzeentch despises the other gods as well, but is willing to make alliances of convenience with anyone. Even the pus bag.

 

Nurgle doesn't like Tzeentch much but really. Nurgle's kind of a happy-go-lucky god. He doesn't let the details get in the way of his fun.

 

Slaanesh hates Khorne because he's unrefined and not as fabulous as Slaanesh, but he's the weakest of the Big Four, and can't do much against the strongest.

[Brother Delias]

In the Nurgle vs Tzeentch quandry here, I would say that Nurgle is the friendly grandfather that gives gifts to his children and grandchildren without any need for gifts in return. His gifts are simply those that are best left... Unwanted by those he deems his children(eg: all mortal creatures).

 

Tzeentch on the other hand, is the onry old geezer that while he doesn't particularly like anyone, will gift his children with gifts, but is just as likely to turn them into a mewling spawn.

 

Neither Nurgle or Tzeentch like eachother much, but they don't outright hate eachother.

 

Khorne is just very VERY unhappy, someone really needs to give him his baseball back. That said, Khorne reminds me of what 8 year old boys are like. Eager to start fights(simply khornate), doesn't want to learn(hates Tzeentch), and hates girls(hates Slannesh)...

 

Slannesh, is a premadona through and through.

 

...

 

And gender confused...

 

Above posts work well too, this is just my odd take.

 

Now on to the actual questions.

 

1: Loyalty is simply that which is bought in the Eye of Terror. Those that fight side by side in one battle might be fighting to death in the next... It basically comes down to. "If you pay me more, I'll kill him instead of you."

 

2: These are the Legionnaires of old that your asking about, If they can be said to have ANY loyalty, it is to that of the legion, and of their Primarch/Demon Lord/Abbadon. The true legionnaires will never turn coat on their colors. However, like what has been said above, renegades often chose one or more of the gods within their own cults, leading to a single warband often having 1-5 cults within (1 for each of the gods and one undivided).

 

3: Obliterators are what remains of techmarines within chaos. Like Raptors, these are mercinaries, and will fight for whoever is willing to pay their price.

[the jeske]

Neither Nurgle or Tzeentch like eachother much, but they don't outright hate eachother.

well in ages past Tzeench was the eternal change and Nurgle was the static despair , they do"hate" each other [generally before the happy chaos family , everyone hated everyone what made sense and made BL/abadon special]. also aside for the god thing there are legion specifics . WE may work for many after the legion break up , but they have no love for EC . For WB going cult is the worse sin possible etc

[minionboy]

I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to chaos fluff, so my questions are

 

1. Would specialist troops (Berzerkers, Noise Marines, etc.) lend their services to any renegade legion?

 

2. Would they change the colour of their armour to match the legion they're fighting with, even if it's just a shoulder pad or something?

 

3.Is it unfluffy to field Obliterators with Khorne armies?

 

Thankyou in advance.

 

 

1. Most legions no longer fight as one unified force. There are many factions and warbands within a founding legion, according to the Codex, members of cult legions have often sworn loyalty to Abaddon and the Black Legion.

 

2. Rarely. Abaddon insists that all members of his army fight with some variation of the Black Legion colors. Oftentimes with Cult marines, they leave some or most of their original colors. Additionally, the Black Legion has unlocked many secrets and have been known to "create" cult marines within his own legion (tricksy sorcerers). Outside of Abaddon, it would take a leader of considerable gusto to sway them to repaint and pledge themselves to a new master.

 

3. Obliterators are their own cult in a way. They lend their services to anyone who can help their agenda.

 

Edit:

As for the cult vs cult arguements, all gods hate each other, but they also know how to use each other as tools to accomplish devious plots. Chaos gods do have their antitheses, but will usually put aside infighting long enough to crush their mortal enemies.