Cedric Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Welcome, honoured visitor... If you like what you see, have tips, ideas, critique or commets or perhaps paint metallics yourself, then feel free to leave a comment or two! I'm always eager to develop my technique or lend a hand as needed. I first joined the hobby back in the days when 3rd ed was released. Most of the time since, I've not participated in the hobby. Now I live in a larger town, with a respectably large wargaming society. I decided it was time to dust off my modelling hobby. And what better way to start fresh than with a brand new DIY chapter? In order to kickstart my new chapter, I joined the Librarium painting challenge. The vow I took was a small one, a test batch of 5 marines to try out a colour scheme for them. Here is an update, as promised. http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z178/the_lord34/IMG_1676.jpg http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z178/the_lord34/IMG_1678.jpg The colour scheme of choice is a metallic green, with golden chest eagle and shoulder pad trim. For now, I have to come up with a good looking red for the pads, eyes and weapons. Something bright laquerlike is what I have in mind. If you have advice for this, feel free to share, and I'll give it a shot. I am by no standards a good painter. This is the first time in 10 years that I pick up a model brush. But everyone can scale the learning curve... Kudos to metcalfedan for his most excellent tutorial on how to paint coloured metal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mick Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Looks good. Well done ^_^. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1836370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOE Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Nice color scheem. You may want to soften the orange shoulder pads just a bit so they don't drown out the green and gold. Speaking of gold, you might also want to try sticking with silver on the trim. Good job for not painting in so long. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1837875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mal Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Good work on the green, painting matt evenly over metalics to get that metalic sheen is always tricky, I agree, the orange looks too off for the green, I like the red on the pad in the first picture, the arm with the chainsword, thats a good contrast without being overpowering. Also silver may be better for the trim, but I would try a wash with chestnut ink first (or a couple of washes with ogryn flesh), that should darken the gold just enough to give it more depth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1837998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedric Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 Thank you! I've had similar input from friends of mine I've asked. Seems I'll me experimenting with deeper reds, rather rhan brigh ones. The orange one was just a test for how orange would work as a base colour, with additional red (not showing on the pics) painted over it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1838198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusktiger Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 i like the green you used. how did you get it to look metallic? did you use a met green enamel paint, or did you coat a normal green with something? i was thinking of doing a metallic red on some of my minis and i've been trying to think how i want to do the paint, so that would be helpful to know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1838672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedric Posted January 11, 2009 Author Share Posted January 11, 2009 i like the green you used. how did you get it to look metallic? did you use a met green enamel paint, or did you coat a normal green with something? i was thinking of doing a metallic red on some of my minis and i've been trying to think how i want to do the paint, so that would be helpful to know. See this link for a tutorial on the method. Only difference is the colour of the wash. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1838761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedric Posted January 12, 2009 Author Share Posted January 12, 2009 Things are coming along nicely, the groundwork on the models is done, and I have learned much in the process. I'm not too happy about my ability to paint gold... it seems as a hard metal to get good colour gradients from. I decided to go with a carnelian red, instead of the laquer one. I had trouble getting good cover from Blood Red over Merchide foundation. Instead, Merc + Red Gore + wash worked wonders. To be done now are the bases, purity seals, transfers and some general cleanup. Anyway, here are the pics of the mean, green marines, as promised. http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z178/the_lord34/IMG_1697.jpg http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z178/the_lord34/IMG_1698.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1840473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewolf74727 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 nice really nice was wondering what green would look like now i know BlueWolf74727 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1842272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShotgunFacelift Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 welcome back to the fold! im in the same situation, isnt it nice being able to convert plastic instead of metal minis? Very clean painting, and I like how the metalics turned out Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1844177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedric Posted February 5, 2009 Author Share Posted February 5, 2009 Finally, I got my shipment of modelling gravel I ordered a while back. The chapter will have some relation to a red planet, so the gravel was painted with Baal Red wash. With that, the bases are finished and the vow for the LPC is complete! (Not that it was a big one, but still...) Here's the result: http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z178/the_lord34/IMG_1739.jpg http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z178/the_lord34/IMG_1735.jpg My DIY chapter the Green Dragons are now officially underway! I have lots of fluff ideas for Liber Astartes article about them, and more importantly, lots of more models to paint! 2 sets of AoBR stuff and a few odd marines on top of that. Here's a light conversion of my first Tac squad's Vet sarge. Since I hate bare heads (c'mon, if you wear great armour, why leave your head exposed?!) I decided to add plumeted helmets to my sarges and higher-ups. http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z178/the_lord34/IMG_1727.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1871594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtNACHO Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Those shoulderpads look alot better then the orange. Good Job! Also a Space Marine's head is probably just as hard as any Helmet. A helmet does help, but when a sargeant needs to inspire and lead his men its harder when all they see is a pair of lenses and a cracckily voice over a comm system. I do have a helmet on my Termi sarge though (except I put an iron halo thing and a bare head on another and I always get the two confused <_<) Looking really nice, keep it up! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1871646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hialmar Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Excellent job. I am not usually a fan of the metallic look but you have made it work. I really like the green and gold mix, but I am not as sure about the red shoulder pads, as to me it makes them look a bit too much like a Christmas Ornament. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1872151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedric Posted February 9, 2009 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 Ideas, ideas. I'm brimful of ideas of how to build this chapter... Besides finishing up the models I own, I've given some serious thought into creating 2 multi-purpose dreads out of the AoBR variety. Idealy, the chassis will be the same on both Vanillas/Ironclads/Venerables. The difference will be in the arms I field them with. I've ordered a few arms from Forgeworld, with the intention of having the assault drill work as a seismic hammer. Sadly, right handed dreadnought weapons are few and far between... at least if you are a loyalist. In fact, the only right handed DCCW I've found availible as a single bit is the Mk IV variety. Oh well. It'll do until I figure how to convert it. Or perhaps I'll grow to like it with a few games under the belt... http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z178/the_lord34/assaultdrillmkiv.jpg http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z178/the_lord34/ccwrst.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1875998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picklechu Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I really like this scheme. With reference to your troubles painting gold, i always finish gold with a very fine highlight of mithril silver, which makes it pop a lot more and gives a greater impression of reflectivity. Hope this helps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1896777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
g0atmilk Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 very cool green! youre always going to win battles with these guys cuz your opponent will be spending his whole time staring at the shiny things! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1896902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mick Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 To bad i didnt see last update, great going ;). Keep up the good work :lol: . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1897004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdog Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 very nice mate. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to see more when you get them finished Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1897008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedric Posted February 28, 2009 Author Share Posted February 28, 2009 Thank you! Paintwise, I've been laying low, mainly because I've run into a major roadbump; custom GS-suplted shouldepad icons. *sigh* I didn' want to take the easy way out and steal the Sallies dragonhead from the ubiquitous transfer sheets, instead I've contemplated buying Alpha Legion badges or make my own dragon icons, using this guide. Metal badges are expensive, and to my frustration I discovered that I'm not an artist when it comes to sculpting GS. Fortunately, the good samaritarian TaintedBrush took pity on me and made me an icon. http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z178/the_lord34/IMG_1803-1.jpg Also, I've got the most wonderful idea of how to create a stupidly easy, yet good looking banner in line with my theme! The Dark Elves iconography! I'll shamelessly rip this off, as soon as I can lay my hands on some plastic banners or bannerpoles. The dragon icons themselves are already secured from friends! Aside from banners, these dragons will find their way onto my stormshields, dreads, rhinos and landraiders in the future. Furthermore, I've found that some Chaos vehicles have dragons heads for muzzles. I'll try to incorporate those as well, the Inquisition be damned! :) http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z178/the_lord34/Bild-1.jpg These are ideas that eventually will find their way into the ranks of my army, in no particular order 2 multi-purpose dreads. The Forgeworld arms have arrived so I cold start the assembly anytime._ A metallic coloured Chaplain using Tin Bitz and Badab Black. If he turns out well, he'll get a count-as-Death Company or Vanguard Tin Bitz marine escort._ A Venerable Dreadnaught, using the Throne of Judgement as a model, but replacing the Inquisitor sitting on it with my Chapter Master. (can't let the kingpin die on his battle brothers, they need his guidance!)_ A second-in-command Captain with the Chaos Sorcerer's backpack (the vents have dragonheads fashioned like those on norse longboats!) and a winged Night Lords helmet. With luck I can add a DE scaly cloak to him, if I can locate the bit._ Death himself! Well... Almost. This will be count-as-Emperor's Champion. To re-create the Grim Reaper in power armour, I'll nick one of the robed Dark Angels bodies, add one of the Eversor Assasins skull helmet for head, along with the Eversor's severed trophy head. He'll be wielding Typhus schyte and wear Helbrecht's backpack with very gothic candles and skulls on it.Can't wait to build this model! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1901416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montuhotep Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I love this idea - it's seems so easy and straightforward to get a fair-sized army done relatively quickly. Plus the models look fantastic, which is always a bonus. Humbly request permission to loot shamelessly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1901505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedric Posted March 1, 2009 Author Share Posted March 1, 2009 I wouldn't publish this if I was jealous about the ideas and schemes. :) I hang around here in order to leech what ideas I can from my betters. If I happen to inspire someone in the community, all the better! Feel free to loot away, and send me a link or two of the results! Who knows, perhaps you'll try something new and improve the process? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1902430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
poisonfrog Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 the marines are looking beastly, excellent scheme. thanks for the link to the tutorial i have been trying to figure out how i would accomplish the same effect for my diy chapter. oi oi oi frog Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1902612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItSeWiNg Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Great work and cheers for messaging me back like to see more soon - Steve Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1905512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedric Posted March 11, 2009 Author Share Posted March 11, 2009 A slight update; I've been busy dabbling around with greenstuff moulding and finally produced some results worth keeping! With the casting process past the trial and error phase, it's time to start producing squads assembly line style. Batches of 5 at a time seems like a reasonable quick pace. I have what it takes for proper production now, a tested paint scheme, a custom badge and last but not least some 20 odd marines sitting around waiting for some primer. Next point of interest will be when I start painting the custom HQs, scouts, dreads and termies. http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z178/the_lord34/IMG_1827.jpg http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z178/the_lord34/IMG_1828.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1914208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
4strsdagr Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 A little green in your red will change the tone I used to do this back when I first started. I haven't tried it and I don' have my paints at hand but I m sure a brown would give it a lacquer look if youdescde on a paint mixture remember your mixture ie 2:1 3:1 etc and I use old bottles when wanting to make a consistant color. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/157014-the-emperors-green-dragons/#findComment-1919232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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