Chaos Terminator Nero Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 guys do know of and chaos Apothecary apart from the corpsemaster. that i could convert and use on table. has anyone made one or attempted it. or is it just a no no. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158449-apothecary/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkApostle Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Fabius Bile and his toons spring to mind instantly. ;) TDA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158449-apothecary/#findComment-1855257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Terminator Nero Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 bile's stats are what i would use for the coversion i am just looking for maybe a black legion Apothecary reference or an other charater linked to chaos for a cool conversion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158449-apothecary/#findComment-1855263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 yes the EC have a lot . the WB didnt break up , so theirs should be ok too . the AL works inside the imperium space and uses unortodox implantation for creation of semi-aspirants as sleeper agents . the only thing we know about WE apothecaries is that most of them went crazy just like most WE officers + WE had the biggest loses post heresy and legion wars . the BL had huge loses too , but considering that abadon is their leader they still probablly have a lot . the IW discovered a new way of reproducing sm [well at least they knew that in the 4th ed where storm of iron was canon], without the cloning process that was used before and after heresy . I dont know nothing about NL apothecaris , save that their are expert torture masters . DG doesnt use apothecaries anymore , at least not in their former form . They are like mortal plague bearers , they keep track of different plagues etc. 1ksons apothecaries are no more . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158449-apothecary/#findComment-1855285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuGGzy Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Reading the WB novels and they seem to have surgeons and such but not Astartes Apothecaries that they mention, these are more like the Heamonoculi from Dark Eldar in the way they dress and act, torturing and "fixing" slaves just enough for them to work or be killed somewhere else. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158449-apothecary/#findComment-1855516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyzerker Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 The Worldeaters do still have a few apothecaries left, chief apothecary Fabrikus is still at large. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158449-apothecary/#findComment-1855625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonar the Nutter Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 but is he sane? lol what would happon to the poor world eater if he went into a blood threnzy while extracting a bullet.? not exactly the guy you want looking after your wounded. and if i remember correctly if a world eater get incapacitated during battle the last thing he does is chop his own head off, so not much point in a apothecary then is there, unless he can put the head back on Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158449-apothecary/#findComment-1855665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Disciple Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Apothicaries are in high demand by the Legions. Fabius has the monopoly on cloning but there are others. The World Eaters have their Berserker Surgeons who perfected the lobotomies that create Berserkers and there are a few of these in the employ of Abaddon. Thanks to the new background the Berserkers (except Khârn) are just viceous and fearless. Not complete frothing lunatics who cant tell friend from foe (like Khârn). the jeske hit the nail pretty much on the head with the others. The Night Lords are torturers but theres a lack of information which gives scope to work with. Likewise for the others. I'd have to disagree about the Word Bearers though as I had the impression that they just wouldnt lower themselves to working on the impure masses. I just assumed that they were on Siccaruis and Ghalmekh working on the holy sons of Lorgar. I know favoritism or what :( Keep us posted on what you decide though. Disciple Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158449-apothecary/#findComment-1855674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 The World Eaters have their Berserker Surgeons who perfected the lobotomies that create Berserkers and there are a few of these in the employ of Abaddon. where was this printed , not that I disbelive it , I just would like to know ? because at least till the 4th ed , the WE were shown as a legion on the brink of extinction without any officers,led by uncontrlable maniacs . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158449-apothecary/#findComment-1855749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castlerook Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Earliest mention I can remember is from the Index Astartes article about the World Eaters. It mentioned that Angron landed on a world where gladiatorial combat was glorified and he was taken as a slave. The surgeons on the world then implanted something along the lines of Neural implants in Angron to heighten his aggression. When he was later found by the Emperor, he had the apothecaries study the implants in him, reverse engineer the technology and implant it in the World Eaters. In the following years the apothecaries perfected the technology. Thats the abridged version from what I can remember, I unfortunately don't have the issue of White Dwarf with me here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158449-apothecary/#findComment-1855802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Disciple Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 You nailed it Anarnaxe, the rest is taken from the current Codex. The story about Khârn which has some Bersekers taking cover and planning their assault on an artillery position. While the Black Legion part is from the Berserker description if I remember. Sorry I'm offshore right now so dont have access to the books to check. Disciple Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158449-apothecary/#findComment-1855936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyzerker Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 but is he sane? As it pertains to Fabrikus, absolutely not. Not in the traditional sense, anyway. But he certainly is functional, enough at least to harvest the progenoid glands and implant them into new recruits and create new Worldeater marines. But he most definately is a sadist, working without painkillers and the like. It makes the work more "interesting" and "fulfilling". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158449-apothecary/#findComment-1856031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peakey Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 You could model one to count-as an aspiring champion for a squad. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/158449-apothecary/#findComment-1856277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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