GrantDaKiller Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Here we go again week three. Time for some more loyalist vs traitor carnage. Eidolon Vs. Tarik Torgaddon Eidolon: Lord Commander Eidolon is one of the most senior Emperor's Children Space Marines. He frequently makes rash mistakes, and receives heavy criticism and retribution from other marines, including Torgaddon, Tarvitz, and even his primarch Fulgrim. He is made part of a war council, but is not held in high regard, and his presence is merely tolerated. At one point in the council, Angron threatens to kill him for speaking to him as an equal. Torgaddon: Tarik Torgaddon was Captain of the Luna Wolves Second Company. Torgaddon had a huge sense of humour, frequently insulting other Astartes, especially from other Legions (it was this which started a rivalry between him and Lord Commander Eidolon). He was a member of the Mournival, and a lodge, until Istvaan lll, when he was killed by Horus Aximand. Who will win? You Decide......................... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Child-of-the-Emperor Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Eidolon would crush the loyalist scum! :P If were talking about after Eidolon gets his sonic implants from ol' Bile - Eidolon would generally have a massive advantage. Or if were talking before his sonic implants i still reckon Eidolon (although its been a while since i read the previous HH books!) - Being a Lord Commander pretty much guarentees hes a great warrior - although if i remember as you said he can be reckless. Torgaddon although an Astartes and therefore a fantastic warrior - i cant recall any mention to him being anything better than an average marine - but anyways just my thoughts - Emperors Children ftw :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1877355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serraphim Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Im gonna go with Torgaddon. Before Eidolon's "upgrades" they were pretty much equal in terms of fighting abilities, with the main exception that Eidolon fights with his head up his @$$, something Torgaddon would easily take advantage of. After Eidolon's "upgrades", simple Torgaddon again. He would have just prodded Abaddon into fighting for him and let Abaddon do his thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1877420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Child-of-the-Emperor Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 After Eidolon's "upgrades", simple Torgaddon again. He would have just prodded Abaddon into fighting for him and let Abaddon do his thing. Lol :P thats cheating!! But i think its pretty clear after his sonic implants Eidolon would own him! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1877433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF4i Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 We talk pre or post heresy Eidolon? Either way, I take Tarik in this one. Looks like last week's winner was Kor Phaeron. So far Kor and Skraal? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1877716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakiwis Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Without the upgrades, I'm going to Torgaddon. I would assume he would be like Loken and would be more practical in his fighting unlike a dandy like Eidolon. With Eidolon's upgrades, I think Torgadon would be hard pressed to even get close to Eidolon to make a decent attack. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1877836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kael Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Eidolon would win. He was the first Astartes personally promoted to the rank of a Company Commander by Fulgrim, and his rise to the top of the Legion as a Lord Commander was accompanied by the growth of his reputation as a prime example of what it meant to strive to achieve perfection. He was commonly regarded within the Legion as the most proficient of the Lord Commanders, with a combat record that included excellent performance in sieges, holding actions and rapid assaults. Even though Tarik is a skilled warrior, he can't beat a Lord Commander upgraded with sonic screams and blasts. Captain Kael :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1877879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Eidolon would win. Although I don't like him as a character, he was definitely described as a proficient fighter, especially after his implants allowed him to blur time and stun his opponents. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1878076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logain the Ranger Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 As much as I like Tarik, I'm going with Eidolon on this one. His skills combined with his sonic abilities make him a very tough opponent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1878148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Id certainly back Torgaddon, they both have excellent records and comparable abilities. Eidolon however does insist on fighting with his head stuffed up his own arse :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1878150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
atin Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 yeah Torgaddon would use Eidolon attitude against him, find his weak spot. i vote Torgaddon ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1878419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT RIPPER Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 give torgaddon some er muffs and he would crush eidolon,eidolon got where he is by taking acknowledgement for the prowess of others under his command Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1878453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantDaKiller Posted February 11, 2009 Author Share Posted February 11, 2009 All the characters in the battle royale are supposed to be as they are before they get any chaos upgrades, die, become drednoughts (Unless they are one) etc, etc. They are as they were, kind of pre to early Horus Heresy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1878873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logain the Ranger Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Then I have to change my vote over to Tarik as he would probably beat Eidolon in a fair fight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1878955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loken of the 10th Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 I have got to say Tarik. He's captian of 2nd company meaning he second only to abbadon. Tarik would find away to get around the sonic implant thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1879436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kael Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 I have got to say Tarik. He's captian of 2nd company meaning he second only to abbadon. Tarik would find away to get around the sonic implant thing. Yet he lost to Aximand. And if this is pre-upgrades, Eidolon would still win. He is after all a Lord Commander. See my first post as to why he would. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1879490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Hunter Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Tarik wud win cos he'd insult eidolon so much his hed wud explode :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1880070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 I have got to say Tarik. He's captian of 2nd company meaning he second only to abbadon. Tarik would find away to get around the sonic implant thing. Yet he lost to Aximand. And if this is pre-upgrades, Eidolon would still win. He is after all a Lord Commander. See my first post as to why he would. People keep ppointing to Eidolon being lord commander. Lets get this into perspective. Who was lord commander of the Fulgrims legion? It was edolon and some other dude (who was a far better commander) Out of the Luna wolves the equivilent to Lord commanders would have been the Mornival or atleast some members of it, Suck as Abbadon or Tarik or even litte horus. Therefore Tarik would win as Edolon was just incompetent. Excuse my spelling it early and I am half asleap Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1881060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor's Scourge Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Tarik Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1881110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 So far Kor and Skraal? No we decided Sual and Skraal, but on this tipic, I reckon...Tarik. he is an awesome fighter and, if Eidolon would have killed him so easily, why didn't he kill him on Isstvaan III in the middle of a battle? I suppose that would have ruined the tale of Aximands final betrayal though... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1883089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 I'm going with Tarik. Next mash up should be Loken vs. Garro! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1883550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logain the Ranger Posted February 15, 2009 Share Posted February 15, 2009 I'm going with Tarik. Next mash up should be Loken vs. Garro! So far it's traitors v. good guys. Maybe a Loken v. Typhus or something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1883673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sons of Horus Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Torgaddon! he'll bash that EC scum into the earth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1884949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ju'kosian Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Torgaddon FTW <_< I think Tarik can enoy Eidolon enough to let him make some mistakes and take advantage. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1885430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustermaker Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Tarik, he is just too smart. He would find a weakness, you don't become 3rd in command of the Luna Wolves for nothing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/160008-battle-royale-week-three-eidolon-vs-tarik-torgaddon/#findComment-1885570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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