Fellblades Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 So with all the controversy surrounding which entry to use for a lot of our armored units, i have just one more question. Do we use the C:SW entry for Ven Dreads or the C:SM entry. I would understand using the C:SM entry if the C:SW told us to reference it, but it does not. So it would seem to me that we should use the C:SW for points. Is that correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Yes. The only way to take a Venerable Dreadnought for Space Wolves is with the entry stated in Codex: Space Wolves. DV8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAVAAR Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Where it differs is that we have a VenDread entry listing that gives all the details and point costs (and does not say "see C:SM"), as all the other vehicles have. So we use our VenDread and C:SM's armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Official GW faqs states we take the SW Venerable dreadnought and also pick wargear and their costs from codex Spacewolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 The advantage being ours is better and cheaper than the C:SM equivilent at the moment. In the new dex, they're likely to streamline with the others, and Bjorn will return - perhaps the Wolftime is upon us, brothers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Scalphunter Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 ... *grabs Exterminatussock* The Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought is a Codex specific choice, completely different from C:SM Venerable Dreadnoughts by inclusion of the Leader and Old and Wise rules. As such, we use the C:SW cost as listed in the Codex. Now really, does anyone bother reading the zoggin' stickied FAQs anymore? Whelps these days... *stomps off grumpily* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 This is covered in the official FAQ, a link to wich can be found at the top of the page. Long story short all the vehicles that are covered in their entirety within our codex are used as they are presented in our codex- the Vendread and Leman Russ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinoyC Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Ok obviously we use our V-Dread...well it says to get the point cost for Smoke Launchers from C:SM...but they're not listed as an item to "purchase" there. Do we assume the previous points or assume it's free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Now really, does anyone bother reading the zoggin' stickied FAQs anymore? Whelps these days... *stomps off grumpily* Poor Bran, here have an Ale and cheer up, they're just whelps, it's to be expected. <_< Ok obviously we use our V-Dread...well it says to get the point cost for Smoke Launchers from C:SM...but they're not listed as an item to "purchase" there. Do we assume the previous points or assume it's free? That is a pickly question, in C:SM they're a built in option so either 1) We can no longer take Smoke Launchers as they no longer have a points cost or 2) They're free. Beats me which though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 IT spells it out in the GW faq boys.... you take the costs for the options from the armory page of our own codex. Thus smoke costs us a mere 3 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash113 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 IT spells it out in the GW faq boys.... you take the costs for the options from the armory page of our own codex. Thus smoke costs us a mere 3 points. Do you mean this FAQ? If so I don't see anything in that about points costs for vehicle wargear specifically unless I totally missed it which is a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullr Direfang Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 i don't remember where it says it, but our Vendred comes from our codex so we use the points in our codex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Its on the Official style GW Errata/FAQ thats available on their website. Links are available in a number of signatures and in the Stickied FAQ thread at the top of the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 IT spells it out in the GW faq boys.... you take the costs for the options from the armory page of our own codex. Thus smoke costs us a mere 3 points. Do you mean this FAQ? If so I don't see anything in that about points costs for vehicle wargear specifically unless I totally missed it which is a possibility. And I quote: "Use the point costs and rules from Codex: Space Marines for..." It then says what vehicles etc are available and then continues to say: "All of the different variants and options available to these units in a Space Marine army are also available to the Space Wolves" The rules and point costs from codex space marine include the costs and availability of such things as extra armor, smoke launchers etc. It then continues on to say that Venerable Dreadnaughts are chosen from our list, not C:SM. Our list is the armory+unit entries and thus includes the part of the armory with vehicle upgrades in it. Just like when we buy them from C:SM we buy the upgrades as they would, when we buy from our codex we buy the upgrades as shown there. Make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunchb0x Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 Space Wolves vehicles: Use the point costs andrules from Codex: Space Marines for Dreadnoughts, Land Speeders, Attack Bikes, Whirlwinds, Predators, Land Raiders and Vindicators. All of the different variants and options available to these units in a Space Marine army are also available to the Space Wolves. The exception to this is the Venerable Dreadnoughts, which must be chosen from the Space Wolves army list (as detailed on page 7), and not the Space Marines army list. Taken straight from the FAQ....Should answer the questions.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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