HERO Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Do you guys find yourselves using the Venerable Dreadnought often? I tend to use mine for Drop Pod assault variants only. I try and keep it as cheap as possible with Extra Armor, Heavy Flamer and Multi-Melta. This gives me a close combat beast with WS5, BS5 and a chance at an early game penetrating shot to the rear of a vehicle. What about you guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedwin183 Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 I'll take them with the same loadout, but I run mine up the middle sort of as a fire magnet. With the re-rolls on the damage chart, it actually becomes quite an annoyance to my opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiserstole20 Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 I'll take them with the same loadout, but I run mine up the middle sort of as a fire magnet. With the re-rolls on the damage chart, it actually becomes quite an annoyance to my opponent. Do you feel like they justify the extra 60% to point cost? I have 2 dreads that I'm considering using as fire magnets (run, pop smoke, next turn start laying down MM fire) but that's a lot of points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolf_nr Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I have had some success using the Venerable Dreadnought as a character killer. The re-rolls on damage help me stick around long enough to kill the IC (S10 Instant Death). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yergerjo Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I just started to run a Ven Dread and yes while they are expensive I am finding it to be a worthwhile investment in points. As I run a Vulkan list I too use the MM arm, but am thinking about switching it up to the Assault Cannon to take better advantage of the BS 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luku Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Multi Melta + He'stan, a great way to turn it into a fire magnet, but as has been said, witht the re-roll you can stop it dying too soon, plus it distracts you from the other anti tank getting into range! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiserstole20 Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 Hmmm, maybe I'll have to try it with a MoTF. A venerable dread would be nigh unstoppable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 I've used the Venerable with standard MM/DCCW+SB setup a few times. I always drop pod it in on the first turn. It attracts fire like nobody's business, allowing everything else to move around unmolested. Well worth the points, in my opinion. In hindsight, I'd have paid the extra points for the heavy flamer instead of the stormbolter. The stormbolter doesn't pack enough punch to be of any real use. It rarely causes wounds before a charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Scorpion Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 2 x Venerable Dread = 3 x Regular Dread Unless you've used the third Elites slot and have 100pts to spare I really don't think they are worth it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 The big debate is whether to run 2x Ven Dreads or 2x Ironclades w/ HKs. I still think Ven Dreads are amazing because of their high BS and re-rolls on the damage table. I find the re-rolls to be better than the AV13 that the Ironclades offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Scorpion Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 If you are footslogging then I say regular Dread. If you are Drop Podding then I say Ironclad. I don't see a role for a Venerable given their expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Posted February 16, 2009 Author Share Posted February 16, 2009 If you are footslogging then I say regular Dread. If you are Drop Podding then I say Ironclad. I don't see a role for a Venerable given their expense. Not even when they have a free BS5 shot at the side armor of a vehicle with their TLMM? Or even their fire magnet worth of re-rolls on the glancing/pen? The price for a Ironclade + 2x HKs is only a few more than the Ven Dread, but I'm not too fond of Str 8 and a 6" Melta for Anti-Armor purposes. But that's just me I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Scorpion Posted February 16, 2009 Share Posted February 16, 2009 They don't have a twin linked Multi-Melta unless you take Vulkan. It's not a major point as they hit on a 2+ with BS5, but you don't get a re-roll for the 1 in 6 shots that will miss. I agree that they are marginally better on the Turn that they land for popping a Heavy Tank, but after that I would be more scared of an Ironclad running through my lines with the extra Attack, Siesmic Hammer, Move Through Cover and unable to be hurt by Krak Grenades. An Ironclad is actually 10pts cheaper too even with 2 Hunter Killers. For Drop Pod purposes I don't really see it as a close call between the two, Ironclads all the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperator Mos Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 1 with AC+DCCW W/HF 1 with TLHF+DCCW W/HF Both podded ( to be fair, almost everything else is podded too). Anyway, that's a lot of flaming death on the first turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryjak Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I'm surprised no has mentioned this, but you can increase the survivability of any dread by giving him a Tech-marine/Servitor "bodyguard", for repairing your immobilizations and weapon destroyed results. Since they all have the same movement rate, they can stick together and help each other out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tutteman Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Why to use Venerable Dreads...FLUFF :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredcorsair Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 I think a plasma cannon and a DCCW is a great all around loadout. Now that i've seen it I'd like a techmarine "bodygaurd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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