xa0s Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I just went thru the WH 'dex and I noticed in the allies section about the WH -MAY- be allied with other Ordos. So, with that assumption, does this mean Ordo Xenos would be legal in the tournament or not? In terms of the Deathwatch PDF SM squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number6 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 The DW PDF has been removed from most GW websites. (As of this writing, it appears to be available on the GW Oz site only.) The problem with the DW PDF rules is that they rely heavily on the previous edition of the Space Marines codex. The PDF requires considerable house-ruling to remain usable, and most events are simply disallowing it from now on. Most of what the DW Kill Team was has been converted into the new Marine Sternguard. In fact, most players who want to play a Xenos force do so by playing Codex Marines led by Pedro Kantor as a "counts as" Deathwatch Captain, thus turning the Sternguard ("counts as" Deathwatch Kill Teams) into scoring units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 In essence the wording was meant to cover an Alien Hunters Codex, which never materialised. If they do get round to doing it, rest assured you can use them as allies with your Witch Hunters. Until then, no luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xa0s Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 Ok, in this case, -can- the BA codex have the IWH -and- the Sternguards/Pedro Kantor (count as Deathwatch squad/Sgt) at the same time or not? Fluffy, Sternguards are the Ordo Xenos but technically, they are SM 'dex based ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number6 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Ok, in this case, -can- the BA codex have the IWH -and- the Sternguards/Pedro Kantor (count as Deathwatch squad/Sgt) at the same time or not? Fluffy, Sternguards are the Ordo Xenos but technically, they are SM 'dex based ?? ;) Er ... It has never been possible to ally Blood Angels (or any other variant Marines codex) and standard Codex: Space Marines armies. And it isn't possible now. You can play BA and ally in units from the WH codex. OR You can play SM and ally in units from the WH codex. But you cannot play BA and ally in anything from any other army that isn't DH or WH. The Inquisitorial codexes are the only codexes still universally "legal" that have allying rules. As I noted earlier, the old Deathwatch PDF rules are effectively dead these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaelion Hexis Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Ok, in this case, -can- the BA codex have the IWH -and- the Sternguards/Pedro Kantor (count as Deathwatch squad/Sgt) at the same time or not? Fluffy, Sternguards are the Ordo Xenos but technically, they are SM 'dex based ?? The closest thing to to what you seem to want is to field two seperate armies, one of BA and one of codex marines, which is not always practical in lower point games and may be something you need to bring to the attention of potential opponents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Master Tyrak Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 xa0s Posted Today, 08:19 PM Ok, in this case, -can- the BA codex have the IWH -and- the Sternguards/Pedro Kantor (count as Deathwatch squad/Sgt) at the same time or not? Fluffy, Sternguards are the Ordo Xenos but technically, they are SM 'dex based ?? To follow up what number6 said, are you thinking you could take allied WH and then choose allied Space Marines as part of the allied WH contingent? If so, the 1) Sternguard and HQs cannot be selected by the DH/WH, and 2) there is a specific rule that if you take allied DH/WH in another army, such a contingent may not include any allied Space Marines or Inducted IG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xa0s Posted February 21, 2009 Author Share Posted February 21, 2009 Ahh, I'm just looking for a way to ensure I get to play with my Ordo Xenos 10-men squad I have in my possession, legally. Just have a very strong affinity towards the Ordo Xenos branch. So far, Sternguards are the best "count as" and to my great reluctance, I may have to go SM dex in order to play with the Inquisition. Of course that's with the SM as the Parent to ally with the DH/WH. Thanks for your time and further clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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