Master Of Malfeasance X Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I was looking at the new baneblade kit with all the different variants. My silly loyalist buddies quickly dismissed the stormlord because, honestly, who needs more anti-infantry, even awesome anti-infantry in Apocalypse? Then it hit me. The Stormlord can carry troops--a lot of troops. 40 to be exact. It also says that up to 20 models can fire out of it. Obliterators are models. Really good models, so picture this: Storm lord (around) 500 pts 20 obliterators: 1500 pts You have a rock hard unit that can kill absolutely anything. Gaunts gotcha down? no problem, two firings of the VMB and 20 plasma cannons that can't ever overheat later, your problems are solved. Fliers gotcha down? 20 lascannons are bound to get a 6 to hit. Superheavies? See fliers. Titans? 20 lascannons is no joke, even to a titan. If you can get close enough, 20 TL meltaguns or regular multimeltas should give even an Imperator pause. Drop the sponsons and you're 14/14/12. Very respectable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163106-apocalypse-musings/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornelias Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 i'd love to see it modeled that's for sure heh, could be some kind of dark mechanicus war engine :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163106-apocalypse-musings/#findComment-1916978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastratedCow Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Are you sure they can carry Obliterators? Cuz normally they can't be transported by... anything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163106-apocalypse-musings/#findComment-1917048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Of Malfeasance X Posted March 14, 2009 Author Share Posted March 14, 2009 I thought that, too, Cow. It turns out that they just can't be transported in Chaos Land Raiders or Rhinos. So you are correct as far as the codex goes--they can't be transported in anything found in CCSM, but this is apocalypse! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163106-apocalypse-musings/#findComment-1917077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Geez... People should seriously get (or even jusr READ) Apocalypse before they try to shoot down peoples ideas... It's cheesy, but pure awesomesauce. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163106-apocalypse-musings/#findComment-1917105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathsHead Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 I'm not really interested in awesome Apocalypse one-trick ponies, but I was thinking about how the Chaos Legions still retain more of a "large scale engagement" structure than their loyalist counterparts and how it would make sense that they'd have some kind of massive transport. One could probably come up with something like your idea that, in addition to being fairly effective, wouldn't result in a sudden trend of carrying around 20 xmm bases to proxy as obliterators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163106-apocalypse-musings/#findComment-1917123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 Yer some guy has started modelling his space marine one with four thunder fire cannons in it :< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163106-apocalypse-musings/#findComment-1917155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutt-Man! Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Cheaper route(if you dont move) 5 Havoc Squads of 5's. -Any ensuring weapos of choice, preferably I like missile launchers. If your going to fire them all at the same target, go cheap or just waste the points in overkill. ~775 points (just above half of 20 oblits, for 25 models) Although, I would rather pack a Warhound with D weapons and not have to roll anything at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163106-apocalypse-musings/#findComment-1917704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Mutt-man, only 20 can fire out of the Stormlord. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163106-apocalypse-musings/#findComment-1917777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hereticus Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 And only 20 of those 25 Havoks can carry heavy weapons so his idea is solid. Although normal havoks may have issues with firing heavy weapons from a moving vehicle that Oblits will not have Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163106-apocalypse-musings/#findComment-1917859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Ah, I misunderstood. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163106-apocalypse-musings/#findComment-1917896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastratedCow Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Geez... People should seriously get (or even jusr READ) Apocalypse before they try to shoot down peoples ideas... It's cheesy, but pure awesomesauce. I didn't try to shoot anything down. I just asked a question because I was under the assumption that Obliterators could never be transported. I guess I was wrong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163106-apocalypse-musings/#findComment-1918324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpWhisper Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Storm lord (around) 500 pts20 obliterators: 1500 pts I can't help thinking that this should come with a giant target painted on it's hull; every dedicated anti-warmachine weapon is going to bear down on this pointsfest on turn one. It's 2000 points with the protection of a 500 point unit. As Mutt-Man said, Warhounds would last a lot longer, even if you loose out on flexibility. I'd much rather run 20 oblits as units of 1; they can still combine fire, and would be much more survivable against enemy fire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163106-apocalypse-musings/#findComment-1919672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Geez... People should seriously get (or even jusr READ) Apocalypse before they try to shoot down peoples ideas... It's cheesy, but pure awesomesauce. I didn't try to shoot anything down. I just asked a question because I was under the assumption that Obliterators could never be transported. I guess I was wrong. I wasn't saying you were, I'm just saying people do before they even know the rules of Apocalypse. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163106-apocalypse-musings/#findComment-1919946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurfalypse Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 Could be wrong but i thoughti had read somewhere that you can only have as many different units in a transport for each entry point or whatever. Not sure where ive read that and its been a while since ive done an apoc game, but i know i read it somewhere. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163106-apocalypse-musings/#findComment-1924319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyescrossed Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Could be wrong but i thoughti had read somewhere that you can only have as many different units in a transport for each entry point or whatever. Not sure where ive read that and its been a while since ive done an apoc game, but i know i read it somewhere. Nope, you read wrong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163106-apocalypse-musings/#findComment-1924811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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