DV8 Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 I was surprised how quiet your compressor was, is it an airbrush specific one? I realized I hadn't answered your question. Yes, it is an airbrush-specific one, and has a water filter and an air tank (which basically stores compressed air so the motor can shut off when it's full). I left my computer on last night and uploaded the rest of the videos: Details: Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4 Part 5 Part 6 Part 7 Part 8 Part 9 Finishing up: Part 1 Part 2 These 11 segments come up to about an hour and a half. Unfortunately, the clips I've uploaded to YouTube (I'll eventually add the airbrush clips too) are rather big files (120-150 mb) so I won't be able to upload them to my webhost. DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2204968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacton Qruze Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 This should keep me busy for awhile. An issue I'm having though, is when I go back with water to feather my light grey, when it dries, it leaves a paint ring around where water was. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2204998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 This should keep me busy for awhile. An issue I'm having though, is when I go back with water to feather my light grey, when it dries, it leaves a paint ring around where water was. Can you take a picture of what you mean? DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2205007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacton Qruze Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Yeah, I can take a shot of it tonight after I get home from work. How are you diluting your paints for the brush coat? are you using the same paint as you did for the airbrush? (IE, it has windex in it) or is it just paint and water? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2205032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 Yeah, I can take a shot of it tonight after I get home from work. How are you diluting your paints for the brush coat? are you using the same paint as you did for the airbrush? (IE, it has windex in it) or is it just paint and water? Just paint and water. I only add Windex for when I airbrush because it helps dilute AND pseudo-clean the airbrush as I work. DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2205042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacton Qruze Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 I might have to do the windex thing sometime. I spend probably 25% of my airbrushing time keeping the needle clean. I had heard of people using it in washes, to avoid the ring lines and pooling, and thought maybe you were doing that with the paint for the same reason. I wonder if my problem is that I'm using a flow-aid instead of water to dilute the paint in the first place? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2205055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 Perhaps. The trick is to balance the amount of dilution with the amount of control you need (or you think you can manage). The more diluted it is, the more difficult it is to control, the less diluted, the easier it is, BUT you end up with chalkier/chunkier paint. It takes a bit of experimenting to find that balance that suits you. DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2205065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iacton Qruze Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 I might have to give it a shot with water, and see what happens. I might just not have it quite thin enough even though I have a high dilution ratio, since it's flow-aid. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2205124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Fingered Villain Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 awesome stuff man, I've never seen mini tutorials in that fine of quality before. Always fun to see another artists process. Wolves are looking lovely, I just ordered a couple boxes of grey hunters/bloodclaws, going to try out your grey recipe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2205290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narsil the Death Dealer Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 Are you using two brushes or just one for your feathering? If you are using just one are you laying down some paint then wiping the excess off the brush on that paper towel so you can feather? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2205361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted December 4, 2009 Author Share Posted December 4, 2009 Are you using two brushes or just one for your feathering? If you are using just one are you laying down some paint then wiping the excess off the brush on that paper towel so you can feather? One brush (Raphael 8404, size 0) Pretty much, although sometimes I'll visit the clean water jar to clean the brush and remoisturize it. And for the record (since it'll probably crop up), I use a Winsor and Newton 7 Series Miniature brush, size 00 for detail work. DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2205374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Lord Mjolnir Posted December 4, 2009 Share Posted December 4, 2009 DV8 - is there an airbrush you would recommend? I was going to get one ages ago but could not find a reliable and impartial review of them for use on 40k scale minis. Cheers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2205385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narsil the Death Dealer Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 DV8 - is there an airbrush you would recommend? I was going to get one ages ago but could not find a reliable and impartial review of them for use on 40k scale minis. Cheers. Man, check out ebay. I picked up a cheap paasche DA with a bunch of extra accessories for around $40 a few years ago. I've got a campbell hausfeld air compresser from walmart I think for $60 around the same time. I'm very pleased with both. One brush (Raphael 8404, size 0) Pretty much, although sometimes I'll visit the clean water jar to clean the brush and remoisturize it. And for the record (since it'll probably crop up), I use a Winsor and Newton 7 Series Miniature brush, size 00 for detail work. DV8 Thanks! I've been meaning to pick up a couple series 7 brushes for years now! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2205993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulse Posted December 5, 2009 Share Posted December 5, 2009 Any chance of getting a few pics of the finished result of the two marines you painted in the video? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2206160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasbane Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 Thx alot for the tutorials DV8, loving it! I'm trying to adapt it for my ultras :). One question thought... is it me or did you feathered the codex grey directly from the pot at stage 3 part 4? I mean the paint doesn't look thick at all but also I've never seen you watering it down. Maybe you are doing it just like you did with the washes (directly from pot and then adding water over the miniature)? Also the last Wash with Devlan Mud was it directly from pot and that's it or did you water feather it as well? Thx alot for answers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2208235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryceD Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I'm not sure if this has been asked before, but do you sculpt some of the purity seals yourself? If so how do you do it? Very awesome wolves by the way, they look amazing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2208447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 Any chance of getting a few pics of the finished result of the two marines you painted in the video? :rolleyes: I will when I re-photograph the entire army (I have my Redeemer and two Land Speeders to finish). Thx alot for the tutorials DV8, loving it! I'm trying to adapt it for my ultras ;). One question thought... is it me or did you feathered the codex grey directly from the pot at stage 3 part 4? I mean the paint doesn't look thick at all but also I've never seen you watering it down. Maybe you are doing it just like you did with the washes (directly from pot and then adding water over the miniature)? Also the last Wash with Devlan Mud was it directly from pot and that's it or did you water feather it as well? Thx alot for answers. Yes, it is straight from the pot, but my paint brush retains enough water and I only take a small amount that it's sufficient dilution for me. For rank and file infantry I'm not too concerned with perfection. If it were characters, I would dilute properly on a palette (and probably take 4 or 5 times the amount of time). And yes the last Devlan Mud wash was also directly from the pot. I'm not sure if this has been asked before, but do you sculpt some of the purity seals yourself? If so how do you do it? Very awesome wolves by the way, they look amazing. None of the purity seals were sculpted by me. They're stock on the models. Why do you ask? DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2208785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavyer Jubal Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 Great looking models, love the old school-ish feeling i get from them, and the greenstuff work is simply amazing. Thanks alot for the tutorials aswell, im going to start painting SW soon and this is some great inspiration. :rolleyes: I dont think ill be able to achieve your level however but ill just keep painting and hope ill reach it.....one day..... ;) Regards, X. [EDIT FOR TYPO's] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2208793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryceD Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I'm not sure if this has been asked before, but do you sculpt some of the purity seals yourself? If so how do you do it? Very awesome wolves by the way, they look amazing. None of the purity seals were sculpted by me. They're stock on the models. Why do you ask? DV8 I used to sculpt purity seals by making a mold of the wax part with green stuff and using aluminum foil for the paper. They just looked kind of like the ones I used to do and I was wondering if you were doing something similar. I was interested to see if/ how you were doing it. I am also wondering about using the colors of washes that you use on grey but with red instead. Like scab red or red gore, and then washing with leviathan purple, asurmen blue, touch up and then devlan mud. That might be cool. Oh and one more question: how did you do the weathering/ scuff marks on the rhinos. They look awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2208817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjelnir Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 DV8 When you airbrush is there a lot of spray that goes outside the painting area ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2209033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primarch015 Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 where do you buy your fine detail brush? michaels? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2209614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midas Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 GW sells them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2209626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DV8 Posted December 9, 2009 Author Share Posted December 9, 2009 DV8 When you airbrush is there a lot of spray that goes outside the painting area ? It does, so make sure your painting area is properly ventilated. I airbrush in my gaming room, with a rather sub-par set up (open window, fan blows paint towards said window, and I make sure everything valuable is covered). Fortunately I don't airbrush much so it hasn't really been a messy issue thus far (although my terrain I will have to paint in my garage). where do you buy your fine detail brush? michaels? I order them online from DickBlick (www.dickblick.com). I use Raphael 8404's, size 0 and 1, for general painting, and Winsor & Newton 7 Series Size 00 for fine detail. GW sells them I wouldn't buy Games Workshop brushes no matter how cheap they were (and in fact I haven't for over 10 years). They're garbage and not worth the money you spend on them. DV8 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2210067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Deathblade Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 If anyone is looking for airbrushes in the uk, here is a good place to look: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AIRBRUSH-KIT-AIRBRUS...#ht_5689wt_1165 They also do on with an air storage tank, but that one is £20 more, and I don't see it being a huge amount of use to me. They do a very quick delivery, that is easy to track, and have a my vote! The compressor is way quieter than I expected, and the brushes (in my none expert opinion) are pretty good. And for the price you can't really argue too much. I also got it cos I want to have a go at airbrush painting on paper/canvass. Dunno how well it will go though. One thing I can recommend, if you have any large cardboard boxes (the house moving sort) then it helps keep mess down by spraying in one of them.You still need to keep the area reasonably ventilated though. DV8, you have been a fantastic inspiration, and have given me plenty of new ideas and techniques. Thank you so much for putting all this effort into giving away your secrets ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2210195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjelnir Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 The airbrushing is going well and will be moving on to the wash stage later today. There is only one problem do you just push the paperclips into the plastic of the backpacks or do you glue them on ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/163452-painted-space-wolves/page/8/#findComment-2236580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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